alfoman Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 It's been a few days since the leak, and I have listened to the songs more than a bunch of times. Here is what has become clear to me. Ever since the release of ETIAW, I kept telling myself that coldplay will go back to their old form. What I didn't realize though is that there is no such thing as oldplay or newplay. Its just coldplay. There are eras and periods, but its all still just coldplay. I promise you if songs like AHFOD and Amazing day were released prior to 2008, many would consider it masterpieces and "oldplay." It is all very relative. It's hard to appreciate things when you have such a strong bias already dominating your thought process. It is honestly just unfair to the band, because they put their heart into this album, and a lot of hardcore fans are just shitting on it. I can tell you one thing: I would rather have this album than nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp3176 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 It's been a few days since the leak, and I have listened to the songs more than a bunch of times. Here is what has become clear to me. Ever since the release of ETIAW, I kept telling myself that coldplay will go back to their old form. What I didn't realize though is that there is no such thing as oldplay or newplay. Its just coldplay. There are eras and periods, but its all still just coldplay. I promise you if songs like AHFOD and Amazing day were released prior to 2008, many would consider it masterpieces and "oldplay." It is all very relative. It's hard to appreciate things when you have such a strong bias already dominating your thought process. It is honestly just unfair to the band, because they put their heart into this album, and a lot of hardcore fans are just shitting on it. I can tell you one thing: I would rather have this album than nothing. ^ One of the smartest thoughts I've read on the forum. I COMPLETELY agree. A Head Full Of Dreams and Amazing Day would be considered classics if they were prior to 2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldplaykb Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 It's been a few days since the leak, and I have listened to the songs more than a bunch of times. Here is what has become clear to me. Ever since the release of ETIAW, I kept telling myself that coldplay will go back to their old form. What I didn't realize though is that there is no such thing as oldplay or newplay. Its just coldplay. There are eras and periods, but its all still just coldplay. I promise you if songs like AHFOD and Amazing day were released prior to 2008, many would consider it masterpieces and "oldplay." It is all very relative. It's hard to appreciate things when you have such a strong bias already dominating your thought process. It is honestly just unfair to the band, because they put their heart into this album, and a lot of hardcore fans are just shitting on it. I can tell you one thing: I would rather have this album than nothing. Very insightful post. Completely agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanma Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 It's been a few days since the leak, and I have listened to the songs more than a bunch of times. Here is what has become clear to me. Ever since the release of ETIAW, I kept telling myself that coldplay will go back to their old form. What I didn't realize though is that there is no such thing as oldplay or newplay. Its just coldplay. There are eras and periods, but its all still just coldplay. I promise you if songs like AHFOD and Amazing day were released prior to 2008, many would consider it masterpieces and "oldplay." It is all very relative. It's hard to appreciate things when you have such a strong bias already dominating your thought process. It is honestly just unfair to the band, because they put their heart into this album, and a lot of hardcore fans are just shitting on it. I can tell you one thing: I would rather have this album than nothing. so true :clap: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanif94 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 It's been a few days since the leak, and I have listened to the songs more than a bunch of times. Here is what has become clear to me. Ever since the release of ETIAW, I kept telling myself that coldplay will go back to their old form. What I didn't realize though is that there is no such thing as oldplay or newplay. Its just coldplay. There are eras and periods, but its all still just coldplay. I promise you if songs like AHFOD and Amazing day were released prior to 2008, many would consider it masterpieces and "oldplay." It is all very relative. It's hard to appreciate things when you have such a strong bias already dominating your thought process. It is honestly just unfair to the band, because they put their heart into this album, and a lot of hardcore fans are just shitting on it. I can tell you one thing: I would rather have this album than nothing. :clap::clap::clap: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdplayingfromKansas Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 And I'd like to say, I'm the last person who should be liking this album, but I'm enjoying it. The key word here is enjoy. For some reason that I'm still trying to fathom I'm getting a feeling I haven't experienced since VLV. But there are aspects of it that are just dreadful so as of yet I have no idea what my overall judgement will be in a few weeks time. Agreed. I continue finding so many different things that I don't like or that weren't done well, but I'm still managing to enjoy AHFoD far more than I ever did MX or GS. I'm not sure what it is. Maybe the lyrics have subtly improved or something? It's no Viva, but I haven't liked a Coldplay album this much since that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdplayingfromKansas Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Here is what has become clear to me. Ever since the release of ETIAW, I kept telling myself that coldplay will go back to their old form. What I didn't realize though is that there is no such thing as oldplay or newplay. Its just coldplay. There are eras and periods, but its all still just coldplay. I promise you if songs like AHFOD and Amazing day were released prior to 2008, many would consider it masterpieces and "oldplay." It is all very relative. It's hard to appreciate things when you have such a strong bias already dominating your thought process. It is honestly just unfair to the band, because they put their heart into this album, and a lot of hardcore fans are just shitting on it. I can tell you one thing: I would rather have this album than nothing. Err . . . one of the major differences between AHFoD / Amazing day and the "Oldplay masterpieces" is the quality of the lyrics. The melodies, riffs, etc. are still great, but the rest of the components needed to make a "masterpiece" have been hit-and-miss (at least for me). Plus, it's not like us Oldplayers don't enjoy some of the songs put out after Viva: Major Minus, Up With the Birds, Moving to Mars, Midnight, etc. You are right in that it's all just different eras, but the bias had to start with something, and for a lot of us Coldplay haven't done anything spectacular enough since Viva to put our minds at peace. For MX and GS it was the lyrics, and now for AHFoD it's iffy production choices and an odd flow :shrug: . . . But I also think that the terms "Oldplayer" and "Newplayer" have created a pretty big divide in the forums and that everyone will continue to go back and forth until kingdom come :P And yes, I realize the irony of pointing that out when this entire post just continues the argument :awesome: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskapist Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 It's been a few days since the leak, and I have listened to the songs more than a bunch of times. Here is what has become clear to me. Ever since the release of ETIAW, I kept telling myself that coldplay will go back to their old form. What I didn't realize though is that there is no such thing as oldplay or newplay. Its just coldplay. There are eras and periods, but its all still just coldplay. I promise you if songs like AHFOD and Amazing day were released prior to 2008, many would consider it masterpieces and "oldplay." It is all very relative. It's hard to appreciate things when you have such a strong bias already dominating your thought process. It is honestly just unfair to the band, because they put their heart into this album, and a lot of hardcore fans are just shitting on it. I can tell you one thing: I would rather have this album than nothing. Oh thank you so much ! I've always wanted to say that but i didn't know how to use the right words. You did it perfectly ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaytheblue Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 It's been a few days since the leak, and I have listened to the songs more than a bunch of times. Here is what has become clear to me. Ever since the release of ETIAW, I kept telling myself that coldplay will go back to their old form. What I didn't realize though is that there is no such thing as oldplay or newplay. Its just coldplay. There are eras and periods, but its all still just coldplay. I promise you if songs like AHFOD and Amazing day were released prior to 2008, many would consider it masterpieces and "oldplay." It is all very relative. It's hard to appreciate things when you have such a strong bias already dominating your thought process. It is honestly just unfair to the band, because they put their heart into this album, and a lot of hardcore fans are just shitting on it. I can tell you one thing: I would rather have this album than nothing. I've never agreed with anything on this forum more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spice Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 anybody knows i good site that sells coldplay shirts ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choldplayer Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Err . . . one of the major differences between AHFoD / Amazing day and the "Oldplay masterpieces" is the quality of the lyrics. The melodies, riffs, etc. are still great, but the rest of the components needed to make a "masterpiece" have been hit-and-miss (at least for me). Plus, it's not like us Oldplayers don't enjoy some of the songs put out after Viva: Major Minus, Up With the Birds, Moving to Mars, Midnight, etc. You are right in that it's all just different eras, but the bias had to start with something, and for a lot of us Coldplay haven't done anything spectacular enough since Viva to put our minds at peace. For MX and GS it was the lyrics, and now for AHFoD it's iffy production choices and an odd flow :shrug: . . . But I also think that the terms "Oldplayer" and "Newplayer" have created a pretty big divide in the forums and that everyone will continue to go back and forth until kingdom come [emoji14] And yes, I realize the irony of pointing that out when this entire post just continues the argument :awesome: I think the melodies have gone downhill quite rapidly also. I also think Amazing Day is a terrible song which would have fallen badly pre 2008. It's boring saccharin Coldplay by numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spice Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 there is no place for amazing day in the first 4 albums that is the difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskapist Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 there is no place for amazing day in the first 4 albums that is the difference There is no place for every song in each album in another album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aschall Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Amazing Day is honestly a Coldplay classic in my opinion. thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aschall Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 It's been a few days since the leak, and I have listened to the songs more than a bunch of times. Here is what has become clear to me. Ever since the release of ETIAW, I kept telling myself that coldplay will go back to their old form. What I didn't realize though is that there is no such thing as oldplay or newplay. Its just coldplay. There are eras and periods, but its all still just coldplay. I promise you if songs like AHFOD and Amazing day were released prior to 2008, many would consider it masterpieces and "oldplay." It is all very relative. It's hard to appreciate things when you have such a strong bias already dominating your thought process. It is honestly just unfair to the band, because they put their heart into this album, and a lot of hardcore fans are just shitting on it. I can tell you one thing: I would rather have this album than nothing. and thank you. hit the nail on the head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasySuperstition99 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 I think the melodies have gone downhill quite rapidly also. I also think Amazing Day is a terrible song which would have fallen badly pre 2008. It's boring saccharin Coldplay by numbers. The piano part and guitar riff and the bass riff are all very melodic and sweet and happy and...well uh..amazing to me. I'd put this song in terms of best happy and melodic songs by Coldplay with Strawberry Swing or something. The thing I could see people having a problem with is the drum part, since it resembles the drum line from AIMH, but other than that I see it as a classic Coldplay song. Even the lyrics are pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjmor95 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 I've already listened to the album quite a few times since Friday, and I'm enjoying it more and more each time. I think I'm going to wait until release day to listen to it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aschall Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 The piano part and guitar riff and the bass riff are all very melodic and sweet and happy and...well uh..amazing to me. I'd put this song in terms of best happy and melodic songs by Coldplay with Strawberry Swing or something. The thing I could see people having a problem with is the drum part, since it resembles the drum line from AIMH, but other than that I see it as a classic Coldplay song. Even the lyrics are pretty good agree! Amazing Day just makes me sway, its drop-dead gorgeous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choldplayer Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 The piano part and guitar riff and the bass riff are all very melodic and sweet and happy and...well uh..amazing to me. I'd put this song in terms of best happy and melodic songs by Coldplay with Strawberry Swing or something. The thing I could see people having a problem with is the drum part, since it resembles the drum line from AIMH, but other than that I see it as a classic Coldplay song. Even the lyrics are pretty good. Just cant agree at all, I hear nothing in it. There's no craft or anything special in it. Aside from XMTS to me it's the worst Coldplay song I've ever heard. It makes me cringe when I hear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasySuperstition99 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Just cant agree at all, I hear nothing in it. There's no craft or anything special in it. Aside from XMTS to me it's the worst Coldplay song I've ever heard. It makes me cringe when I hear it. Haha ok well that's ok too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gus Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 amazing day is brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Rush of Magic Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 It's been a few days since the leak, and I have listened to the songs more than a bunch of times. Here is what has become clear to me. Ever since the release of ETIAW, I kept telling myself that coldplay will go back to their old form. What I didn't realize though is that there is no such thing as oldplay or newplay. Its just coldplay. There are eras and periods, but its all still just coldplay. I promise you if songs like AHFOD and Amazing day were released prior to 2008, many would consider it masterpieces and "oldplay." It is all very relative. It's hard to appreciate things when you have such a strong bias already dominating your thought process. It is honestly just unfair to the band, because they put their heart into this album, and a lot of hardcore fans are just shitting on it. I can tell you one thing: I would rather have this album than nothing. Amen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfoman Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 I agree with the fact that the lyrics don't seem as "meaningful" as they have been, which is simply a product of vague theme or word choice for me. However, melodies and riffs can completely alter the way in which lyrics are perceived. If I have never listened to yellow before, and someone gave me a sheet with the lyrics: "Look at the stars Look how they shine for you And everything you do Yeah they were all yellow" I mean nothing there stands out as a "masterpiece" to me until I hear how well it was sung and masterly put together it was by the band. I really really really think perception has a lot to do on the way we look at coldplay these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getithom Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 I agree with the fact that the lyrics don't seem as "meaningful" as they have been, which is simply a product of vague theme or word choice for me. However, melodies and riffs can completely alter the way in which lyrics are perceived. If I have never listened to yellow before, and someone gave me a sheet with the lyrics: "Look at the stars Look how they shine for you And everything you do Yeah they were all yellow" I mean nothing there stands out as a "masterpiece" to me until I hear how well it was sung and masterly put together it was by the band. I really really really think perception has a lot to do on the way we look at coldplay these days. A-fucking-men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasySuperstition99 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 I agree with the fact that the lyrics don't seem as "meaningful" as they have been, which is simply a product of vague theme or word choice for me. However, melodies and riffs can completely alter the way in which lyrics are perceived. If I have never listened to yellow before, and someone gave me a sheet with the lyrics: "Look at the stars Look how they shine for you And everything you do Yeah they were all yellow" I mean nothing there stands out as a "masterpiece" to me until I hear how well it was sung and masterly put together it was by the band. I really really really think perception has a lot to do on the way we look at coldplay these days. Two insightful posts in one day. You're a genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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