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I don't know what everyone was on about when they were blaming Eno back then because he certainly wasn't around for development of the rest of the songs.

 

I don't think it had to do with the development or songwriting of the songs. I remember many fans were mad because he deviated the band from their rustic approach in production. I can't say everybody was against him, but A LOT of fans weren't happy with his involvement. Now, the idea that Eno's involvement with the band has been positive seems like a consensus among the fans.

 

yeah, i think the argument could be made that the perspective Eno brought of the band being free to make whatever kind of music they want and not care about genres maybe in some ways influenced them to turn to, as people say, more "pop" songs and collaborations with people they probably would not have felt comfortable collaborating with before

so it's not Eno having a direct effect on the music like, say, Stargate did. more of just a ripple effect

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Exactly, Eno's influence brought them onto the path that would eventually change their sound and style for good.

But in the meantime they got so mainstream poppy (Stargate...) that many of us wish Eno to be back because no one denies that VLVODAAHF is much more artful and experimental than their recent stuff...

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Exactly, Eno's influence brought them onto the path that would eventually change their sound and style for good.

But in the meantime they got so mainstream poppy (Stargate...) that many of us wish Eno to be back because no one denies that VLVODAAHF is much more artful and experimental than their recent stuff...

 

I would say Ghost Stories was pretty experimental. Maybe not as much as VLV but it did dive into the pool of experimental pop and electronic music. But I see what your saying. Even if we got the same song writing on AHFOD, it would have been vastly improved without Stargate's touch.

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Aliens is, in my opinion, head and shoulders above the other tracks on Kaleidoscope. It really does have that Viva era experimentation vibe, and I love it. I would very much want them to continue exploring in this direction, but unfortunately, I think that this is a one time 'bone' they threw to their older fans, just like the request segment during the shows. I certainly hope it's not the case, but it's my hunch.

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Aliens is, in my opinion, head and shoulders above the other tracks on Kaleidoscope. It really does have that Viva era experimentation vibe, and I love it. I would very much want them to continue exploring in this direction, but unfortunately, I think that this is a one time 'bone' they threw to their older fans, just like the request segment during the shows. I certainly hope it's not the case, but it's my hunch.

Sadly, I agree that it is probably a one-off, because its roots are in an older Era :(

But together with Hypnotised and AICTAIY I do think it might indicate that the band are getting better again. Although their output is quite hit and miss on Kaleidoscope EP (SJLT...) for me personally the EP has 3 good songs vs. 2 not so good ones, which is a much better ratio than on the AHFOD album for example :)

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Hahaha this forum has changed! The last time I was an active user on this website (2013), Brian Eno was the Devil and the one responsible for Coldplay's decline.

 

Woah, whattttttttt

How's that supposed to work?

I've never heard of that opinion before...

 

 

I'm just going to set the record straight here:

 

Brian Eno departed during the Mylo Xyloto recording sessions.

 

The credits only stated that he provided the enoxification of some songs. He hasn't been involved with the band until recently. He made the app for Hypnotized and I'm betting you that the lads impressed Brian with what they've done to this snippet from the interview from all those years ago.

 

I don't know what everyone was on about when they were blaming Eno back then because he certainly wasn't around for development of the rest of the songs.

 

Unfortunately as some users here pointed out, this is probably a left over from the Viva and Mylo (pre-Eno departing) sessions that has been polished. That's why it still has that odd Viva/Mylo feel.

 

Moving to Mars has that same Viva/Mylo feel too.

And I think that one of the reasons why Mylo stands out so much to me is of the enoxification, I really like the style of pop rock it has on it's own but with this "enoxification" that I can definitely pick out it sounds even better.

So if anything, he only improved what that album would have been anyway.

AHFOD is pretty much Mylo with a terrible producer, and that's why we got what we got. (again, not hating on AHFOD cause I do like it, but it can't compare to Mylo in any way IMO...)

 

 

I would say Ghost Stories was pretty experimental. Maybe not as much as VLV but it did dive into the pool of experimental pop and electronic music. But I see what your saying. Even if we got the same song writing on AHFOD, it would have been vastly improved without Stargate's touch.

 

I agree.

And I know none of you are going to get what I'm saying (biased Mylo fan) but I'd say the same for Mylo, even though a lot of you might think it's standard pop rock for the most part, if you compare it to mainstream from that time (which I like as well) there's something different about it. Especially in the interludes and with certain songs. I overall think they really explored different synths and sounds in that album, and especially if you listen to the instrumentals you can hear some of what I'm talking about.

I'd go as far as to say there's a decent ambient influence on the album (Brian Eno), but not in the really downtempo way, you know? (Except for UiF. Listening closely, you can hear quite a few interesting things going on...) There's a lot of really dense, streched out noises and I think they tried to combine this with an upbeat pop rock sound to get a super energetic vibe. So I don't really think Mylo is as untalented and lame as some of us think.

Just my opinion on all this.

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I agree.

And I know none of you are going to get what I'm saying (biased Mylo fan) but I'd say the same for Mylo, even though a lot of you might think it's standard pop rock for the most part, if you compare it to mainstream from that time (which I like as well) there's something different about it. Especially in the interludes and with certain songs. I overall think they really explored different synths and sounds in that album, and especially if you listen to the instrumentals you can hear some of what I'm talking about.

I'd go as far as to say there's a decent ambient influence on the album (Brian Eno), but not in the really downtempo way, you know? (Except for UiF. Listening closely, you can hear quite a few interesting things going on...) There's a lot of really dense, streched out noises and I think they tried to combine this with an upbeat pop rock sound to get a super energetic vibe. So I don't really think Mylo is as untalented and lame as some of us think.

Just my opinion on all this.

 

I just think it's hard for some people to realize post Viva Coldplay is more experimental in a lot of ways than pre Viva Coldplay. That's not a sign of better or worse (which is a matter of opinion anyway), it just shows that the boys are still putting effort into their music. If I can be so bold I would say Mylo & Ghost Stories is the peak of their experimentation. Midnight obviously immediately comes to mind, but besides that you have all the new synths first and foremost, then you have the interludes on both albums (remember that Coldplay don't have a single interlude pre-2011) , the sampling (Midnight, Another's Arms, Princess of China, Up with the Birds), and probably my favorite, all the cool electronic drum sounds, which Will does such a good job at making and arranging.

 

Again, this doesn't make the albums better or worse objectively, but it definitely makes the album more interesting to listen to IN MY OPINION.

 

Or maybe I'm just biased too. Ghost Stories is my favorite album.

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I just think it's hard for some people to realize post Viva Coldplay is more experimental in a lot of ways than pre Viva Coldplay. That's not a sign of better or worse (which is a matter of opinion anyway), it just shows that the boys are still putting effort into their music. If I can be so bold I would say Mylo & Ghost Stories is the peak of their experimentation. Midnight obviously immediately comes to mind, but besides that you have all the new synths first and foremost, then you have the interludes on both albums (remember that Coldplay don't have a single interlude pre-2011) , the sampling (Midnight, Another's Arms, Princess of China, Up with the Birds), and probably my favorite, all the cool electronic drum sounds, which Will does such a good job at making and arranging.

 

Again, this doesn't make the albums better or worse objectively, but it definitely makes the album more interesting to listen to IN MY OPINION.

 

Or maybe I'm just biased too. Ghost Stories is my favorite album.

 

I think all eras of Coldplay are cool and unique in their own way. I can't hear a lot of real boundaries being pushed in the AHFOD album, but there is Kaleidoscope (the song and the EP), and Colour Spectrum.

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I think all eras of Coldplay are cool and unique in their own way. I can't hear a lot of real boundaries being pushed in the AHFOD album, but there is Kaleidoscope (the song and the EP), and Colour Spectrum.

 

Yeah honestly AHFOD could have been a lot better really easily. I love the songs on it but the mixing is pretty off and it feels so unfinished when I listen to it.

 

 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Fsk3sQyZt8

Mobile Link: https://youtu.be/1Fsk3sQyZt8

43:40

 

Omg that's the first thing i thought when listening to A L I E N S. Especially during the 3:20-3:40 part.

Just amazing.

So for anybody who's listening, no complain that it's a bad song because it's officially an oldplay song (probably) written during the VIVA era ! :D

 

I love it. The drums ! The rythm of the song, 5/4, is amazing. I think I've never heard something like that ! I like the guitar riffs, bass and the vocals in the last part of the song are my favourite, I think. I think it's a great song but I don't know if they'll ever perform it live. I hope so though. If they do, I hope they don't use too much backingtracks then :D

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Fsk3sQyZt8

By the way, about this:

 

Here's one thing of which I think they've changed; if you start listening from 44:07 (the sound's not very good) they sing ''on the skyline'' and after that they sing ''a patch a corner'' right? Which is now ''target movement'' and ''a patch a corner''. So they changed the spots of some of the lines, unless video or audio parts have been cutted etc.

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So for the Oldplayers (and for anyone else), don't complain it's a bad song because it's officially an oldplay song (probably) written during the VIVA era !

 

i don't think there's a need to get so proactively defensive, none of the Oldplayers seem to have complained about this song so far :P

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i don't think there's a need to get so proactively defensive, none of the Oldplayers seem to have complained about this song so far :p

I actually think I did saw something but it doesn't matter anymore. I actually meant it as a kind of a joke but forgot to put some smileys on it :D

I was actually listening to the song at that moment so that's why I was kinda defending the song maybe, sorry about that. I can't even remember writing it hahah !

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Yeah honestly AHFOD could have been a lot better really easily. I love the songs on it but the mixing is pretty off and it feels so unfinished when I listen to it.

 

 

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Thankfully, your edit fixes that. It really brings the album up a few notches for me, and goes to show what some extra work and even just tweaks on something can do.

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Thankfully, your edit fixes that. It really brings the album up a few notches for me, and goes to show what some extra work and even just tweaks on something can do.

 

Thanks man. That was the idea of it. I actually made some more mixing edits and I'm gonna post it soon

 

 

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I just went back to Youtube to watch the video again and I realized that almost all the top voted comments on the first page are hateful, anti-refugee comments ! That's such a shame, isn't there something we can do about this ? Like collectively downvote these comments and upvote other comments instead (comments that are actually about the song, for example) ? So much hate underneath such a beautiful song....

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I just went back to Youtube to watch the video again and I realized that almost all the top voted comments on the first page are hateful, anti-refugee comments ! That's such a shame, isn't there something we can do about this ? Like collectively downvote these comments and upvote other comments instead (comments that are actually about the song, for example) ? So much hate underneath such a beautiful song....

 

The issue with that is thumbing down youtube comments doesn't really do anything.

 

 

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The issue with that is thumbing down youtube comments doesn't really do anything.

 

Yeah, I just noticed that as well. Seems like the number of upvotes is the determining factor for post popularity.

I wrote a few replies to some of the hateful posts...

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I made a quick comparison if people want to hear it together without having to get both videos going. I did my best to overdub both. Note this is NOT the full song, just a quick clip.

 

[MEDIA=googledrive]0B_PT2dt0uqfhZTc1Ukp6MDg1WHM[/MEDIA]

Mobile Link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_PT2dt0uqfhZTc1Ukp6MDg1WHM/view?usp=sharing

It gives me shivers just hearing it. So pumped we finally have this!

 

Yeah, I can't believe I didn't hear it in the video. In all fairness, it was after I had only heard the song one time.

 

So, I feel this is probably the only collection of songs I could maybe use to win over a Radiohead fan with.

I mean.. there's a ton of us that are fans of both.. but we all know a few Radiohead fans that hate everything about Coldplay.

 

And what's weird is ..this seems to be one of the first collection of songs that were assembled much like a Radiohead album- with some songs

dug way from the past.

 

I'm glad they waited.. it did have a more organic MX sound to it on the video. I love the new bass-y Coldplay. Coldplay with teeth.. kinda thing.

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Yeah, I can't believe I didn't hear it in the video. In all fairness, it was after I had only heard the song one time.

 

So, I feel this is probably the only collection of songs I could maybe use to win over a Radiohead fan with.

I mean.. there's a ton of us that are fans of both.. but we all know a few Radiohead fans that hate everything about Coldplay.

 

And what's weird is ..this seems to be one of the first collection of songs that were assembled much like a Radiohead album- with some songs

dug way from the past.

 

I'm glad they waited.. it did have a more organic MX sound to it on the video. I love the new bass-y Coldplay. Coldplay with teeth.. kinda thing.

I know, I couldn't believe I missed it as well. I literally heard that small clip 100 times and still didn't pick up on it until someone else had mentioned it. The second I did though, I had a huge grin on my face. So glad to have it finally!

 

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I just went back to Youtube to watch the video again and I realized that almost all the top voted comments on the first page are hateful, anti-refugee comments ! That's such a shame, isn't there something we can do about this ? Like collectively downvote these comments and upvote other comments instead (comments that are actually about the song, for example) ? So much hate underneath such a beautiful song....

your first mistake was even scrolling in Youtube comments....

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your first mistake was even scrolling in Youtube comments....

 

I agree.

Trying to argue with people online leads to nowhere at all, talking of personal experience lol.

They're anonymous so they are free to say whatever they like without constraint.

I should add that the comments during the first few hours of the video being online were mostly positive and they really gave me hope in humanity! :heart:

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I really have no faith in humanity reading the comments, people suck.

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I really have no faith in humanity reading the comments, people suck.

 

They probably have problems in their lives and are venting out online, it's easy to do.

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