Surely this song's just a part of the story that we'll get in full on the album? I understand what you're saying, but I really get a sense with Paradise that not only does it fit into the big picture on the album it will live as well. For me that's one of the most exciting things about it, they've just given us a taste.

 

 

 

I don't follow you at all here, maybe you should come back when you've given Paradise as long as you have ETiaW (or at least more than 12 or so hours) and make your call then!

 

It's true that I might like the song in the context of the album. I sure hope so, since it's a concept album! I still feel the lyrics are lacking, though. The best way I can explain it is that I was expecting something more like "Viva" lyric wise. They're intelligent and it also tells a story within the lyrics. And I did say that maybe the song would grow on me. I know I haven't had enough time to completely get used to it or soak it in yet. At the end of that trial it may become my favorite song or I may hate it. I don't know. In response to comparing ETIAW and Paradise, I feel I chose the word "weaker" poorly. What I meant to say is that in my opinion as of right now, I enjoy ETIAW more than Paradise.

Kill it with fire

A few things people should consider:

a) As I understand it the original point of this thread was that even the greatest of bands take directions which can alienate some of their fans

b) People cannot criticse Coldplay because they think that the new music is just aimed at younger people or at the pop market or whatever; this may not be Coldplay's intention at all, this may genuinely be a direction that they have always been interested in musically and wanted to try.

c) We've got to look at Paradise in context; it was chosen over Charlie Brown as the second single to challenge people's expectations- the evidence doesn't suggest that it represents a systematic new direction but rather that it was the most different song they had. Also Paradise will be between Hurts Like Heaven and Charlie Brown on the album- even if you just skip it you'll have plenty of other good music.

d) If this music is aimed at the teenage market, then I've really got to wonder about some of their older music. Listen to Yellow's lyrics- they clearly represent naive idealist teenage love. By contrast, MX so far looks complex and challenging, with constant changes in its music and ideas.

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TKOL > MX

It's true that I might like the song in the context of the album. I sure hope so, since it's a concept album! I still feel the lyrics are lacking, though. The best way I can explain it is that I was expecting something more like "Viva" lyric wise. They're intelligent and it also tells a story within the lyrics. And I did say that maybe the song would grow on me. I know I haven't had enough time to completely get used to it or soak it in yet. At the end of that trial it may become my favorite song or I may hate it. I don't know. In response to comparing ETIAW and Paradise, I feel I chose the word "weaker" poorly. What I meant to say is that in my opinion as of right now, I enjoy ETIAW more than Paradise.

 

I completely agree with you :)

 

I read an interesting post on the lyrics somewhere. It said something like there's been a shift from songs with Chris' singing and lyrics at the centre of everything, to a more abstract, ethereal even, concept of a song. So, while the lyrics and singing have driven most of their songs in the past, this and ETiaW (which I still don't like but have grown much more tolerant of) are more like an abstract painting - the main message gets through, but in a dreamy way. A song grown from an idea, rather than a song built from a story.

 

I think that's what makes this song beautiful.*

 

The lyrical and vocal driven songs are still there (i.e. most of the rest of the tracks so far from this era - with Major Minus being a sort of midway point between the two). But they've developed this other side. And I see that as very brave myself. And the genius in it is that they've made a song that, without any lyrics that most could relate to, or any complete story, most of the public will love, and should prove to be a big hit.

 

 

 

 

 

* I only realised after I typed that - that, yes!! - I'd really said that this song's beautiful. It's just hit me subconsciously. Wow.

I hate when people compare Radiohead and Coldplay. They're two completely different acts with very different creative endeavors.

 

It's like saying: "Bjork's new album sucks ass compared to Tupac's 'Thug Life: Volume 1. SOoooooo poppy, and commercial.'"

You're right, actually you have a valid opinion. I know bass is the foundation for Dubstep, but synth and Jonny are MX's biggest contribution. Hitting out at the synth is seriously stupid when you know it's gonna be there. As for swearing so much, I was really pissed that NO ONE likes the new song. People honestly prefer ETDIAWF?! C'mon. seriously. that song was the worst coldplay song ever. *IMO*

It's fine, as long as you realize what you did wrong. As for me liking ETDIAWF, I just prefer it over "Paradise" because I love Johnny's guitar riff, the bright tone, the usage of their instruments, and Chris Martin's voice. I really wish they replaced a piano or keyboard with the "I Go To Rio" sample in the beginning though. At first I didn't enjoy the song at all, but after a few listens, I began to appreciate it. This just wasn't the case with "Paradise" though. I listened to it 10 times in a row (I tried THAT hard) and I just disliked it more and more. Hopefully the rest of MX (to me) is much better.

I gave it a 6/10. I just didn't feel like it was a band piece and those are the types of songs I like. It felt like a Timbaland-produced One Republic song like someone said above. But the album will probably rock so I'm not too worried.

Ok so I first said I didn't really like it, but after 43 times of listening to it, I love it now. I just had to get used to it. I love the chorus and the beat, gonna keep listening to it until i get sick of it. lol

The more I listen the more I like it, and I already liked it the first time I heard it. And my 7 year old just heard it and said "Oh, I like that, it's pretty. It's Coldplay isn't it?" So she likes it too on first listen.

Its another great song from coldplay, all their songs are fantastic...:) thank you once again coldplay

Is not their best, and not too "coldplayesque" but i give a 9... I have listened to it enough times and it has grown on me, in fact I prefer this one than ETIAW and of course I miss the old coldplay, but I try to be optimistic and believe that just this album is going to be that "pop"... but this song is very good I think

I think the problem people are having is that they aren't remembering this is a concept album.

Theres 14! (or more!!!) songs that are telling a giant story, so it doesn't matter if each song doesn't have the worlds most thought out lyrics.

 

I love Paradise, and from hearing all the songs they've released/played so far, this is Coldplay's true ROCK album. It will be amazing, and it will be played A LOT on the radio, which is the best thing that could happen. More exposure = More and better songs in the future. And they deserve it too.

 

And for Rihanna, I think people are over-reacting. She can sing (is she perfect? no), and have you heard Princess of China yet? Even though the live recordings have suckish quality, you can still hear most of the song. Its not like she will be raping about sex. She will probably share the lyrics with Chris.

I think it will be a great song. At least Coldplay and the Oracle seem to think so. And they are the only ones I will trust.

 

My name is Matthew, and Ive been a fan of Coldplay since I found out that the song on the radio was called Clocks, about 9 months before Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends came out. I bought X & Y and loved it. I got Parachutes and A Rush of Blood to the Head and loved it. I got VLV and loved it.

And most importantly, I love the songs from Mylo Xyloto. Im 18 now and a freshman in college, and I can say that I am a true Coldplay fan. Ive listened to all their albums, know many of their lyrics, and appreciate them a lot.

So I thank them and say let haters hate!

Actually can I rate parts of the song? Like Chorus: 3, rest of the song: 9? Those are my feelings. But I was so happy when I heard the beginning, ETIAW scared me when I first heard it.

I think everyone is tired after sth about two or three weeks waiting for a great single but I think we most consider the fact that all of us have changed over past 15 years and no two remain the same, a band's music is a reflection of their affairs and concerns, for sure this chris, jonny, guy and will are not those past four guys wearing jeans and produce lovely songs with dark theme, everything around them have been changed and they've faced so many new themes and patterns and before talking foolishly and angrily about past and accusing them to be anything , just look at our past and see that are we those who used to be...?

I love Amsterdam, Gravity, Everything..., and all of those but do we think that singing 20 years of same repeating things would be great and original?

I don't think a great artist is who keeps telling same kind of things over a time and they can't just put their time and effort remembering those old college days, hanging out together and face small jobs, I think they are still catchy and powerful in music but their meanings have become more simple and including greater affairs but I, (like others) miss those Spies or even Speed of Sound days but still 7 tracks or so are remaining,,,

 

and about overproducing the album. yeah it doesn't sound that pure, Brian unfortunately...

 

we'd better see the fact that our comments really affect cause we can obviously see that good points on paradise have reduced and we are running off the way and letting the lovely band down after one single and a news of collaborating with Rihanna (cmn on chris!) , disloyal fans...

post 42!, sorry for poor English...

Least favourite so far but don't loose hope on MX being a great album.

 

I think it's ok, under the synth theres a good song hiding, I'd love to here an acoustic or stripped down version. But listen to it in context listen to MX/Hurts Like Heaven, then Paradise, Charlie Brown & Us Against the World and Mylo Xyloto so far seems to be quite an album.

Gave it a 2 because at least it was better than ETIAW, but not by much.

Theres quite a story for the album so far in Hurts like Heaven it sets up a cold world of people being torn apart and fighting back, then in paradise we encounter the girl of the piece expecting the world but facing a harsh reality, so dreming of a paradise. Then in charlie brown we have the boy of the piece escaping in a car meeting the lost boys then being smashed to smitherines in the concrete being captured but 'glowing in the dark', then in Us Against the world the boy fantasies about escaping the chaos with the girl and creating a new world. We haven't heard M.M.I.X. yet but presumably the boy escapes, and in ETIAW the boy put his music on as a way to escape reality and imagines the girl emerging to tell him it's alright and though he may get hurt he still raises the flag. Then in Major Minus we get a true idea of the enemy ever watch full and the protagonists hiding, fighting and escaping. I can't wait for the second half of the album to hear the finale. It is quite a concept it reminds me of what The Who's Lifehouse was to be till it became Who's Next.

I gave it a 2, better that ETIAW. I'm seriusly worried about the album.........I'll keep listening MTM

Nothing in TKOL and (supercollider and butcher and staircase ) is comparable with the 4 songs coldplay released so far, the worst song in TKOL is better by miles than any or all combined latest coldplay songs.

 

I cant find a single indication of soul or heart in any of the coldplay latest songs.

 

I'm forcing myself to at least like the songs but no luck.

At first listen I though this song was crap... After several listenings I liked it a little bit but it's still far from old Coldplay... For me, the best studio song from this era so far is Moving to Mars... and it's not even in the album :rolleyes:

LOL... In fact Coldplay and Radiohead are my two favorite bands and if you compare for example Parachutes with The Bends you realize that they weren't so different... but now they have taken opposite paths and they don't have anything in common. Radiohead have become now so Experimental/"Extremely Alternative" and Coldplay is so Popish/Commercial, and the truth is that I don't like any of the paths they took... I would prefer that they still do what they used to do, I mean it's ok an evolution and it would be very boring if they still sound the same but at least they should have keep their style.

I didn't like it at all on the first listen, but it's not so bad on the second. :\:(:confused::shrug: But hey, that's just taste. Musically I zigged and they zagged and now we're both different than we used to be. It makes me sad to think we're going in different directions with different philosophies about music, but such is life.

 

It's got a great tune, and some of the individual sounds sound amazing. But to my ears the whole is less than the sum of it's parts- it's too dense and it ends up sounding interchangeable with most of what's big on the top 40 stations now instead of offering something fresh to that world like they traditionally have.

 

I wonder what it would sound like if it was put together differently...? :thinking:

 

It felt like a Timbaland-produced One Republic song like someone said above.

Yeah, that's what I've been trying to think of. Rock people doing the clubby sound.

I gave it a 6. Could go up or down a little when I listen to it more, but it's just alright so far. The chorus is decent enough, and that keyboard riff when it kicks is something else when you first hear it.