June 11, 20215 yr No one is wondering yet about what could be the song with a colour name, but I would like to start that topic.
June 11, 20215 yr 7 minutes ago, The Philosopher said: No one is wondering yet about what could be the song with a colour name, but I would like to start that topic. There haven't been any color songs since MX, right? OK, Color Spectrum was there if you count that.
June 11, 20215 yr 22 minutes ago, Strawberry Swinger said: There haven't been any color songs since MX, right? OK, Color Spectrum was there if you count that. Yes, I absolutely count Colour Spectrum because it has all the colours in it. And even if you think about it, you could doubt more of that in Everyday Life, because you wonder: where is the colour song there? 0k, there wasn't a colour song itself, but they were more twisted in that album. The second half of the album is called "Sunset", and "Sunset" is also a colour: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunset_(color) They always think about that.
June 11, 20215 yr So it's been confirmed that HP is the soundtrack for the latest BMW commercial. I guess what Coldplay and BMW have in common is their goal to become more environmentally friendly. That, and how with their latest launches and their changes in style they've alienated large parts of their fan bases.
June 11, 20215 yr Quote What I'm a bit worried about is that amazing production can sometimes overshadow the mediocre songwriting. Hopefully it will be balanced and songwriting/quality of production will be on the same level. In terms of songwriting, Higher Power for me is kind of walking on edge - it is quite cleverly structured, very catchy and so full of energy, but nowhere close to getting masterpiece hit song status. ^This. Exactly this. Production is one thing, but songwriting is another. My issue with Newplay isn't necessarily that Jonny's guitar or Guy's is sometimes mixed poorly (though that is a problem), it's mostly that some songs just aren't as sharply written or as catchy as Oldplay. Higher Power is overall a well written song with fun, clean production. But does it feel as cinematic as Paradise? Or as danceable as AOAL? Or as catchy as Magic? Or as energetic and raw as Orphans? Not in my opinon. Only time will tell on how MOTS shapes out -- I doubt it will be 100% pop songs, but the ratio could be bigger than ever. Or maybe not! I was expecting a way poppier AHFOD with Stargate and was super angry about that back in 2015, but in hindsight the percussion and atmosphere on that album is pretty dang nice sounding and it gave us some tunes Oldplayers can love -- Birds, Amazing Day, Up&Up. Chris also said in interviews that this is a new thing for Max to be working with a band like Coldplay, so I don't think we can really predict the final sound. With Higher Power, I'm torn. It seems so far like the song is kind of flopping the U.S. and I agree that it's kind of a 50/50 between rock and pop, just like a lot of AHFOD and GS. I simultaneously feel bad for the band if Higher Power is their huge flagship for this era and it's their least successful single, but also I hope that it is their flagship and that means other songs will be more weird & spacey. Chris did say they were trying to imagine what alien music sounds like, and so far it just sounds like Coldplay lol. Edited June 11, 20215 yr by lennyrott1
June 11, 20215 yr I must admit I'm not feeling entirely hopeful about the new era. But I think people are forgetting that Music of the Spheres as a concept started during the Viva days and that all the reused terms (Alien Radio) and reused set ideas and costumes from the MX tour seem to confirm this. Just like the MX and Viva eras, Jon Hopkins is allegedly back (from his reddit AMA) and that we've heard only one pop song (HP) while hearing another in the vein of Everyday Life (HH) and a weird ambient intro that sounds like the Escapist, MMIX, and Always in My Head combined. People are also overlooking how ambitious this is. This has entire worlds and planets, a concept, a language and culture, weird radio transmissions that suggest further clues, etc. This feels way too ambitious to be something like GS or AHFOD but rather something like MX or VLV. Will said his favorite song which was played on BBC big weekend but not broadcasted is something they've never done before - Chris also talked about a new song that was "weird and new", comparing it to metal/jazz-fusion. I think there's something much more exciting to come than what we've seen so far.
June 11, 20215 yr 55 minutes ago, TheBigBadBono said: I must admit I'm not feeling entirely hopeful about the new era. But I think people are forgetting that Music of the Spheres as a concept started during the Viva days and that all the reused terms (Alien Radio) and reused set ideas and costumes from the MX tour seem to confirm this. Just like the MX and Viva eras, Jon Hopkins is allegedly back (from his reddit AMA) and that we've heard only one pop song (HP) while hearing another in the vein of Everyday Life (HH) and a weird ambient intro that sounds like the Escapist, MMIX, and Always in My Head combined. People are also overlooking how ambitious this is. This has entire worlds and planets, a concept, a language and culture, weird radio transmissions that suggest further clues, etc. This feels way too ambitious to be something like GS or AHFOD but rather something like MX or VLV. Will said his favorite song which was played on BBC big weekend but not broadcasted is something they've never done before - Chris also talked about a new song that was "weird and new", comparing it to metal/jazz-fusion. I think there's something much more exciting to come than what we've seen so far. I'm kinda hoping they bring back some MX era songs that never saw the light of day Great Expectations Sex and Violence Etc
June 11, 20215 yr Picture it The year is 2047 and Coldplay has just released their 17 studio album that Chris claims will likely be their last
June 11, 20215 yr 1 hour ago, harrisonrules said: Picture it The year is 2047 and Coldplay has just released their 17 studio album that Chris claims will likely be their last I thought that you'd posted a picture of New Order or The Who there...
June 11, 20215 yr On 6/10/2021 at 4:16 PM, lennyrott1 said: Couple things have stood out over the past few days : 1. Chris' discussion of Max Martin seems to suggest the album will be very poppy, which I think we already were expecting. He basically said that Max is helping members of the band realize they can make songs that are more pop. Hard to know if he was talking about Higher Power or this whole era. 2. The band is still recording? Chris said he had a song for Max Martin just the other day, and it seems like they're doing their interviews from the same building where they could be wrapping up the record. So maybe MOTS wasn't finished around the same time as EL like some of us predicted. Or maybe it was and they've completely changed it? 3. Jonny mentioned during the Twitter Q&A that he's loving the Meris Enzo guitar pedal. It can create some synth sounds that are unrecognizable as guitar, so this suggests more synth sounds will be present on the album -- or more songs where there isn't traditional Coldplay guitar sounds. I'm so excited by this guitar-synth thing. Jonny already makes such cool sounds on the guitar, whether that's the main riff in POC, the ambient intro of MX-era GPASUYF or AROBTTH-era Spies. Matthew Bellamy (guitarist of Muse) and Chris Wolstenholme (bassist) both run their instruments through lots of synth pedals and get super interesting results. Simple application - arpeggiator on the guitar More complex application - making dubstep with guitars and bass ?
June 11, 20215 yr 30 minutes ago, MosesTheMarshmallow said: I'm so excited by this guitar-synth thing. Jonny already makes such cool sounds on the guitar, whether that's the main riff in POC, the ambient intro of MX-era GPASUYF or AROBTTH-era Spies. Matthew Bellamy (guitarist of Muse) and Chris Wolstenholme (bassist) both run their instruments through lots of synth pedals and get super interesting results. Simple application - arpeggiator on the guitar More complex application - making dubstep with guitars and bass ? Muse rocks
June 12, 20215 yr Why are there so many sex shops in Kaotica 3rd one is unclear but I see S and E in back and possibly X
June 12, 20215 yr 5 hours ago, MosesTheMarshmallow said: I'm so excited by this guitar-synth thing. Jonny already makes such cool sounds on the guitar, whether that's the main riff in POC, the ambient intro of MX-era GPASUYF or AROBTTH-era Spies. Matthew Bellamy (guitarist of Muse) and Chris Wolstenholme (bassist) both run their instruments through lots of synth pedals and get super interesting results. Simple application - arpeggiator on the guitar More complex application - making dubstep with guitars and bass ? motp = best muse song
June 12, 20215 yr 3 minutes ago, Strawberry Swinger said: motp = best muse song Gonna have to disagree they have several that are better IMO though Knights of Cydonia Bliss and Hysteria to name few My personal favorite is Muscle Museum
June 12, 20215 yr 7 hours ago, MosesTheMarshmallow said: I'm so excited by this guitar-synth thing. Jonny already makes such cool sounds on the guitar, whether that's the main riff in POC, the ambient intro of MX-era GPASUYF or AROBTTH-era Spies. Matthew Bellamy (guitarist of Muse) and Chris Wolstenholme (bassist) both run their instruments through lots of synth pedals and get super interesting results. Simple application - arpeggiator on the guitar More complex application - making dubstep with guitars and bass ? I was thinking about this a while back when Chris did that little live stream solo gig, I think it was something for Dell? And he had a MIDI controller on his instruments, which he jokingly called "Coldplay in a box." The one on his acoustic guitar definitely reminded me of the (much more advanced) Kaoss Pad that Matt Bellamy uses. And when that's combined with synth pedals, it really can let one musician make an extremely wide range of different sounds with a single instrument. It'd be so cool if Jonny were to use a guitar-synth device alongside what he already does. He could do some even more other-worldy stuff and that'd be great for an album like MOTS that's supposed to be space and alien-themed. If only Coldplay would do something that sounds like Black Holes & Revelations... or maybe The Resistance. Imagine a spiritual successor to X&Y that's heavier and angrier, with orchestral stuff sprinkled in. But I think they're done with "angry Coldplay" for now after Trouble In Town, Arabesque, and Guns. By the way, I love that you posted this version of Map of the Problematique. I was at Glasto for it and it was definitely a highlight of the set.
June 12, 20215 yr 12 hours ago, TheBigBadBono said: I must admit I'm not feeling entirely hopeful about the new era. But I think people are forgetting that Music of the Spheres as a concept started during the Viva days and that all the reused terms (Alien Radio) and reused set ideas and costumes from the MX tour seem to confirm this. Just like the MX and Viva eras, Jon Hopkins is allegedly back (from his reddit AMA) and that we've heard only one pop song (HP) while hearing another in the vein of Everyday Life (HH) and a weird ambient intro that sounds like the Escapist, MMIX, and Always in My Head combined. People are also overlooking how ambitious this is. This has entire worlds and planets, a concept, a language and culture, weird radio transmissions that suggest further clues, etc. This feels way too ambitious to be something like GS or AHFOD but rather something like MX or VLV. Will said his favorite song which was played on BBC big weekend but not broadcasted is something they've never done before - Chris also talked about a new song that was "weird and new", comparing it to metal/jazz-fusion. I think there's something much more exciting to come than what we've seen so far. People have cited one of the Roadie 42 blog posts before, where he says that Chris asked him to "build a solar system" after everyone got back from the last leg of the Viva tour in Latin America. I wonder if that has to do with the solar system of 12 "spheres" that the album is based around, or if it has to do with the stage setup, a bit like what was used for the American Idol performance of Higher Power. http://timeline.coldplay.com/article/roadie-42-blog-118/ I wonder about this quote from another blog post in 2010. It might just be referring to the bizarre guitar tone that Jonny achieves in Princess of China. But it might be something different, something that we haven't heard. Who knows... "The conversation about today’s song is getting underway. Guy, Will, Chris and Phil are sitting with producer Markus Dravs. Jonny has already sat at his guitar-world and has begun experimenting with sounds. His guitar is being fed into his laptop. What is coming out the other end sounds very much like it’s arriving from another planet." http://www.coldplay.com/roadie-42-blog-121/ EDIT: Honestly, this is exactly the kind of thing that Jonny could be doing with the Meris Enzo guitar pedal... he could be going for more of these really bizarre and otherworldly sounds. Edited June 12, 20215 yr by 42Escapist
June 12, 20215 yr I just saw an ad for the new all-electric BMW models with the soundtrack Higher Power. Though it seems a fitting soundtrack especially with the line 'This joy is electric' I am a bit disappointed. Didn't they say some years ago that they would never allow their music to be used for commercials?
June 12, 20215 yr 2 hours ago, merril said: I just saw an ad for the new all-electric BMW models with the soundtrack Higher Power. Though it seems a fitting soundtrack especially with the line 'This joy is electric' I am a bit disappointed. Didn't they say some years ago that they would never allow their music to be used for commercials? Yes. But Chris said in a recent interview that after AHFOD they felt that they have achieved what they wanted. Now they have kind of re-written their internal rules, and are being open to certain things that they were earlier not open to. This included their performance at American Idol. I don't remember the exact words, but that was the gist of it
June 12, 20215 yr 3 hours ago, merril said: I just saw an ad for the new all-electric BMW models with the soundtrack Higher Power. Though it seems a fitting soundtrack especially with the line 'This joy is electric' I am a bit disappointed. Didn't they say some years ago that they would never allow their music to be used for commercials? What? Are you serious? Our commercials are filled with their tracks. Yellow, Clocks, Viva La Vida, Sky Full Of Stars, Adventure Of A Lifetime are tracks that are literaly abused by ads here. Cellular companies, car ads, sports equipment shops, gym chains and the list goes on. If you ask people if they know Coldplay and they say they don't, if you play them these tracks they will go like "OH! The track from that ad...". I also clearly remember Vodafone using the Jacques Lu Cont's Thin White Duke mix of "Talk" back when I was in highschool, everybody seemed to mumble the tune from that remix. People don't realise that covering a song or playing it on a commercial DOES NOT need the greenlight of the artist to be allowed into an ad. They can go ahead and use it as long as they pay for the licence it requires. Using a sample though on a track (like how Talk is sampling Kraftwerk's Computer Love) DOES INDEED require the licence of all the artists involved. The reason we have all these instrumentals of their albums is because they are offered by EMI SYNC and UMPG for licensing, mostly in ads. Edited June 12, 20215 yr by nowayme
June 12, 20215 yr Coldplay's songs or part of them have been used in several movies, series and trailers, but as for commercials for certain products they once said: 'We wouldn't be able to live with ourselves if we sold the songs' meanings like that.' That's why they turned down multi-million contracts from Gatorade, Coke etc. The contract with BMW will certainly be very profitable for them.
June 12, 20215 yr 41 minutes ago, merril said: Coldplay's songs or part of them have been used in several movies, series and trailers, but as for commercials for certain products they once said: 'We wouldn't be able to live with ourselves if we sold the songs' meanings like that.' That's why they turned down multi-million contracts from Gatorade, Coke etc. The contract with BMW will certainly be very profitable for them. That meant them being featured in-person in ads, not their songs. I can name atleast 8 ads at the top of my head here using their songs. As I said, if let's say me, a telecommunications company, want to use "X" track of a Top40 artist, I just go to their music licence publishing website, find the track I want, select from a certain type of criteria that I want to use, pay for it and done. It's a little bit oversimplified but at no time it ever requires anyone from the original artists agreeing in any way their song being used in my company's ad, the artists do not hold any kind of publishing rights to their music. Kinda similar to how cover songs work. The original artist cannot stop you from covering their song, it's just that you are obliged to pay for a licence. The only exception to the rule is when you want to sample their track. Edited June 12, 20215 yr by nowayme
June 13, 20215 yr On 6/11/2021 at 10:23 PM, harrisonrules said: Why are there so many sex shops in Kaotica 3rd one is unclear but I see S and E in back and possibly X Maybe a reference to the cyberpunk genre. Its also included in the concept art: Higher Power, DOFRESH .
June 13, 20215 yr On 6/12/2021 at 3:23 AM, harrisonrules said: Why are there so many sex shops in Kaotica 3rd one is unclear but I see S and E in back and possibly X 1 hour ago, ermitao said: Maybe a reference to the cyberpunk genre. Its also included in the concept art: Higher Power, DOFRESH . I haven't played it yet, but I know that there's a videogame called Cyberpunk 2077 and there are sex shops in there. It is based on a role-playing game called Cyberpunk 2020. Maybe they took inspiration from there. In fact, the whole aesthetic of the Higher Power video, reminds a lot to that videogame.
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