1 minute ago, Coeurli said:

The main theory is that Chris had trouble singing the whole AHFOD set with Clocks included. He was trying to save his voice but they didn't seem ready to let go of that song so he's been lypsincing it. 

I hope this song finally gets out of the set list or he finds a way to sing it live again! 

Interesting. Could just have an intermission or something lol I’d rather that than non-live vocals!

I’d love to see Coldplay play a stripped down set without prominent backing tracks (like they did for that Instagram live but with full sound / drums etc.) where Chris doesn’t have to crazy exert himself. Maybe then he’d survive Clocks haha

Just now, BerheavedTripod8 said:

I mean doing 100+ 2 hour long shows surely takes its toll on a voice, but I much prefer a set that's 1h30m instead of 2h if it means everything is live.

Actually I don't think it was a matter of length necessarily but more a matter of the way he sang the AHFOD songs and what it all demanded in regard to his voice. 

His voice in Higher Power is much lower and I assume he's going to keep using his lower register as much as possible, so he can sing everything live. 

If they have to lipsynch I'd prefer if they used the album/single version honestly. It's probably common practice in the industry but I'd expect better from coldplay. It's too fake.

1 minute ago, IslandToDiscover said:

Interesting. Could just have an intermission or something lol I’d rather that than non-live vocals!

I’d love to see Coldplay play a stripped down set without prominent backing tracks (like they did for that Instagram live but with full sound / drums etc.) where Chris doesn’t have to crazy exert himself. Maybe then he’d survive Clocks haha

Highly recommend the Dell show if you haven't seen it! He's alone but it's acoustic and his voice is wonderful.

38 minutes ago, Coeurli said:

The main theory is that Chris had trouble singing the whole AHFOD set with Clocks included. He was trying to save his voice but they didn't seem ready to let go of that song so he's been lypsincing it. 

I hope this song finally gets out of the set list or he finds a way to sing it live again! 

I would rather hear Clocks sung live than some other songs. ?

34 minutes ago, Coeurli said:

Highly recommend the Dell show if you haven't seen it! He's alone but it's acoustic and his voice is wonderful.

Twas good!

I'm still waiting for a song where Will sings lead vocals. Or Guy or Jonny!! 

The Clocks things was pretty evident but I never fully understood why either.

-It's a song at the piano rather than running around. Chris gets very obviously out of breath when dancing on his feet for ETIAW/VLV for instance.

-It's not the hardest or highest song to sing. Fix You and ASFOS both have higher notes and more falsetto. 

2 hours ago, Coeurli said:

Highly recommend the Dell show if you haven't seen it! He's alone but it's acoustic and his voice is wonderful.

I did, thanks!! Was a great show. Just hoping we get more of this with the full band!

2 hours ago, Coeurli said:

I hope this song finally gets out of the set list or he finds a way to sing it live again! 

+1

43 minutes ago, MosesTheMarshmallow said:

I'm still waiting for a song where Will sings lead vocals. Or Guy or Jonny!! 

The Clocks things was pretty evident but I never fully understood why either.

-It's a song at the piano rather than running around. Chris gets very obviously out of breath when dancing on his feet for ETIAW/VLV for instance.

-It's not the hardest or highest song to sing. Fix You and ASFOS both have higher notes and more falsetto. 

Yeah I'd rather see him lip syncing ASFOS, if he has to do it.

55 minutes ago, MosesTheMarshmallow said:

The Clocks things was pretty evident but I never fully understood why either.

-It's a song at the piano rather than running around. Chris gets very obviously out of breath when dancing on his feet for ETIAW/VLV for instance.

-It's not the hardest or highest song to sing.

-Fix You and ASFOS both have higher notes and more falsetto. 

That's right, but, I assume, you knew that parts of ASFOS like the ''I don't care go on and tear me apart'', ''I think I saw youuu'' lines were also lip synced throughout the whole A Head Full Of Dreams tour basically.

 

2 hours ago, stepstr said:

Every single Church performance you can find on the web, Jordan included, featured a vocal track that's on the album.

This is correct! There's a few times where Chris does sing only the outro live, you can clearly hear the difference between the lip sync Chris and the real live Chris.

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1 hour ago, Gideon_Mx said:

That's right, but, I assume, you knew that parts of ASFOS like the ''I don't care go on and tear me apart'', ''I think I saw youuu'' lines were also lip synced throughout the whole A Head Full Of Dreams tour basically.

 

This is correct! There's a few times where Chris does sing only the outro live, you can clearly hear the difference between the lip sync Chris and the real live Chris.

I actually did NOT know that but that makes total sense and completely addresses my point lol. I was also confused about lip syncing for Church, again..not a hard song. You might say "oh but it's the first song" but at a few shows they open with Orphans and I'm pretty sure that's not lip synced (not counting the choruses where there's obvious a lot of kid voices/Will doing some of the vocal heavy lifting). To be honest though I guess I'm not surprised when the rest of the band has been lip syncing since the VLV era (possibly even during X&Y). I'm 50% sure this is not lip syncing in this performance since Guy's vocals are weirdly loud relative to Jonny or Will and you can hear him go a little out of tune after 4:15. Anyways I don't mean to hijack and talk about backing tracks like I am so prone to do. I hope the band will one day return to a way of performing that's not as reliant on backing tracks for instruments OR vocals, as they are all very talented gentlemen and all the evidence from early gigs and IEM mixes suggests they do sound good. I could be excited for another track like Fix You where all 4 members sing (haven't really had anything this substantial since maybe Up&Up). Also bring on the Guy and Will lead vocal tracks. 

 

I'm actually suprised to find out they use so much backing tracks for the vocals. One thing if there are stuff they can't perform live, like a synthesizer or so, or if Chris can't sing a harmony at the same time as he sings the main melody, but don't know what to think of this. Yes I know they did this with Church etc, but now it's getting a bit too much for me ??

16 minutes ago, MosesTheMarshmallow said:

I actually did NOT know that but that makes total sense and completely addresses my point lol. I was also confused about lip syncing for Church, again..not a hard song. You might say "oh but it's the first song" but at a few shows they open with Orphans and I'm pretty sure that's not lip synced (not counting the choruses where there's obvious a lot of kid voices/Will doing some of the vocal heavy lifting). To be honest though I guess I'm not surprised when the rest of the band has been lip syncing since the VLV era (possibly even during X&Y). I'm 50% sure this is not lip syncing in this performance since Guy's vocals are weirdly loud relative to Jonny or Will and you can hear him go a little out of tune after 4:15. Anyways I don't mean to hijack and talk about backing tracks like I am so prone to do. I hope the band will one day return to a way of performing that's not as reliant on backing tracks for instruments OR vocals, as they are all very talented gentlemen and all the evidence from early gigs and IEM mixes suggests they do sound good. I could be excited for another track like Fix You where all 4 members sing (haven't really had anything this substantial since maybe Up&Up). Also bring on the Guy and Will lead vocal tracks. 

 

Isn't that Will's voice you're referring to? By the way it totally makes sense what you're saying, but it's hard to hear the difference between Guy and Will because they sing the same notes indeed. I think it's actually Will's voice that is so loud. Guy turns away his head from the mic around 4:20 and the level of volume of the voice stays exactly the same. You see?

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1 hour ago, Gideon_Mx said:

Isn't that Will's voice you're referring to? By the way it totally makes sense what you're saying, but it's hard to hear the difference between Guy and Will because they sing the same notes indeed. I think it's actually Will's voice that is so loud. Guy turns away his head from the mic around 4:20 and the level of volume of the voice stays exactly the same. You see?

You might be right, but it just sounds to me more like Guy's voice than Will's. It's hard to tell since in Fix You they both since the exact same vocal line. But something about the soft-loudness sounds more Guy than Will to me (you've heard the IEM mix with Guy's vocals right?) Guy moving his head away from the mic may just be him breathing. I just thought he'd be more likely to make a mistake than Will because Will's singing is SPOTLESS. 

JB has the pyramid on his hat

Maybe 5 symbols represent members of the band? With Phil, of course. 

Oh my God the side of the amp spells out 

UNIVERSE GIRL

14 hours ago, LelieJens said:

I really don't care if Worthy Farm is pre-recorded and not "realtime live", but I just hope the pre-recorded video is the band playing live, not any pre-recorded tracks (and of course there are instruments in the background not being played live so they are pre-recorded).

I think there was a quote from Anchorman that everything you see being played is 100% live, but all the other things aren't. (That super logical haha). But that isn't true sadly -> Clocks on AHFOD, Church in EL, HP, ...

A few months ago, Liam Gallagher did his Live On The River Thames set. It was entirely pre-recorded, edited, and then streamed "live." Makes sense, considering the entire set was played on a moving boat with fireworks and other visual bells and whistles. Maybe this will be similar.

But yeah, and when Coldplay did the Jordan live streams, they also pre-recorded Old Friends. It was filmed in an entirely different spot with just Chris and Jonny.

And during the AHFOD tour, a bunch of songs had pre-recorded piano and acoustic guitar parts that Chris wouldn't even play. The "choir" during the chorus of Up&Up was pre-recorded too. I guess they just don't like having extra musicians onstage outside of special occasions. I would be completely fine with them having a touring keyboard player. I would be completely fine with them having a touring rhythm guitarist. Lots of very popular bands do that. Sometimes the touring musician is off to the side and doesn't have stage lights on them so the focus is on the main band members... but you can still see them. If you watch Yellow in Live 2003, apparently that's Chris's guitar tech playing the acoustic guitar offstage so that Chris himself can roam around the stage more.

Oh well. If Coldplay don't want to do that nowadays, it's their choice.

I agree, some pre-recordings make sense. For example, if they wanted to play HP live they'd have to bring someone for the synths, a whole choir as well as Chris's daughter and whoever else might have been added in the recording. So realistically that's not going to happen. It can also make sense to pre-record something for a special occasion such as Worthy Farm.

But what about the lead vocals on songs like Clocks, as a regular thing during their own tour? They wouldn't need to bring anyone else along for those. They used to be more than capable of playing these songs live so I wonder what's stopping them from doing it now? Are they not able to anymore? Don't want to? Think people wouldn't forgive a few mistakes here and there? Is that the case, are people too used to it from other singers/bands who do the same? 

At the end of the day, whatever the reason it shouldn't be called "live" if it's not. 

I bet most people don't watch closely enough to even notice this is happening- the band know this and are happy with it. 

There are singers and bands where I'd totally expect all of their performances to be playback but Coldplay are so talented they could play live and I wish they'd go back to doing that. 

10 hours ago, harrisonrules said:

Oh my God the side of the amp spells out 

UNIVERSE GIRL

Oh my G! Could that be a song title? ?

33 minutes ago, LisaFeehily said:

I agree, some pre-recordings make sense. For example, if they wanted to play HP live they'd have to bring someone for the synths, a whole choir as well as Chris's daughter and whoever else might have been added in the recording. So realistically that's not going to happen. It can also make sense to pre-record something for a special occasion such as Worthy Farm.

But what about the lead vocals on songs like Clocks, as a regular thing during their own tour? They wouldn't need to bring anyone else along for those. They used to be more than capable of playing these songs live so I wonder what's stopping them from doing it now? Are they not able to anymore? Don't want to? Think people wouldn't forgive a few mistakes here and there? Is that the case, are people too used to it from other singers/bands who do the same? 

At the end of the day, whatever the reason it shouldn't be called "live" if it's not. 

I bet most people don't watch closely enough to even notice this is happening- the band know this and are happy with it. 

There are singers and bands where I'd totally expect all of their performances to be playback but Coldplay are so talented they could play live and I wish they'd go back to doing that. 

1. Do they think they're at a place where they can't afford mistakes?

Well they've played this song thousands of times and probably can play it in their sleep, also it isn't their hardest song to sing so I don't think they would mess this one up that much.

2. Is Chris tired of singing Clocks?

3. Does his voice need a rest in the middle of the show?

I think he wants to rest his voice a bit tbh. But I would rather see a shorter concert than lip syncing.

Some songs at this point in their career I think are difficult to perform completely live, depending on sound, effects, choirs, style etc and I can accept that.

I have a harder time understanding lip syncing to an oldie.

Edited May 14, 20215 yr by Famous_Old_Painter

I completely understand your point @Famous_Old_Painter

The samples of choirs, other instruments etc. don't bother me. But i'm pretty naïve and just want to live in a world where my favorite band doesn't lipsync ? or need an autotune. (My husband sometimes cringes when he hears live performances and hears Chris miss a note, but I'm always defending Chris. Surely, when he's running around like crazy, this isn't always best for his singing, but still.) 

Also, regarding the pretty hard discussion I've read on this forum about Higher Power, pop music, generic songs, etc. I just come here to feel the excitement of other people who are just as crazy about this band as I am. Because my family and friends can't relate to my emotions as you guys do ?  Nothing more than love for this band! 

*Here am I in my little bubble* 

ALIEN

On 5/12/2021 at 6:19 PM, LelieJens said:

Not sure if it's mentioned already but I find it "disappointing" that both the live performances (Brit and Idols) aren't live at all. The two voice tracks of Chris are exactly the same (extremely noticable sighs at the exact same times, ...). 

It could be that the Idols version was live and the Birts was lip synced (because of the fireworks and filming) but I hope the Glastonbury show is 100% live and not Chris lip syncing over a pre-recorded track. (Like Clocks in the AHFOD tour) 

 

On 5/13/2021 at 12:45 AM, LelieJens said:

Also, is it me or are the performances also heavily auto tuned? Not that it's a very big deal, but it's def the first time I notice an auto tune on Chris' voice.

https://youtu.be/kiqEEr7CK2g?t=100 (timestamped)

What?! Oh no!!! This is getting ridiculous. I'm really annoyed should this be the case. (More at the lip-syncing than at the autotune, actually.)