August 29, 201510 yr Interesting discussion which leads me to think that maybe the record label will push back or push forward the release date of the album to avoid competition with Adele. Seems plausible. Record label, if you read this: Push the release FORWARD, NOT BACK. Okay, thanks!
August 29, 201510 yr There is undoubtedly heavy label involvement with releases. Universal Music Group is basically a monopoly at this point, and lots of control over Coldplay, Adele, Rihanna, Kanye (basically everyone). So if Kanye, Adele and Coldplay all decided to release their albums during the same month, there would probably be some pushback from the labels to ensure each has its chance to shine (make tons of $$$). So I think we can expect Coldplay to release their record well before or after Adele (who is rumoured for November as well). I am sure they do very specific market analysis to ensure max sales, so since Coldplay and Adele both appeal to that huge adult contemporary/young pop crowd, they probably should be separate. Just my thoughts!
August 29, 201510 yr ^ If that's indeed what the record label winds up doing (I'm with you on this), it sounds, unfortunately, like they're going to push it back if anything. Unless Coldplay winds up dropping AHFoD out of nowhere . . . Lead singles tend to drop a month-ish ahead of their albums, yes? Assuming they want to promote it and not just drop the song on us, they might give us a week of teasing. So: If they drop the single on Monday, Sept 7, in concurrence with their two festival appearances, that puts the album date anywhere from the beginning to middle of October. To me, that seems way too close to Adele's rumored date. Of course, the Adele rumors could be wrong, or if they're correct her date could be moved to accommodate Coldplay instead :P And there's the added bonus that if it's released at the beginning of 2016, it has all year to garner sales :shrug:
August 29, 201510 yr This is really a good example of a "shuffle your feet a bit" song: [video=youtube;_VuQAebwG84] Coldplay, take note!
August 30, 201510 yr This is really a good example of a "shuffle your feet a bit" song: [video=youtube;_VuQAebwG84] Coldplay, take note! Oh my God!! I love James!! Their latest album La Petite Mort is simply amazing. If Coldplay are thinking of something similar to it, then AHFOD will be remarkable [emoji6] "I live to see the world"
August 30, 201510 yr I don't like Adele, but now that she might be the reason for a delay in AHFOD I like her even less.
August 30, 201510 yr I don't care the slightest bit about competition with Adele. If she is #1 instead of Coldplay, that's fine by me. Quantity is what the charts focus on, rather than quality.
August 30, 201510 yr I for one would actually hope that Coldplay's album totally flops in the charts. Which won't happen, but I'd still love it to happen. Here's why: - No.1 in the charts nowadays means it must be an extremely poppy record, cause that's what draws people in and would alow it to compete 1D and other chart-topping crap What? That's not at all what it means. There are countless albums released that flop. It's not because its a "poppy record", it's because the quality is shit. This has nothing to do with genre. A bad album is a bad album. I don't understand the hatred this site has for pop music.
August 30, 201510 yr What? That's not at all what it means. There are countless albums released that flop. It's not because its a "poppy record", it's because the quality is shit. This has nothing to do with genre. A bad album is a bad album. I don't understand the hatred this site has for pop music. I think he meant that for AHFOD to be a big success or even get to number one this fall it will have to be a poppy record. Makes sense to me. Of course exceptions are possible but that's a pretty solid argument, especially given the musical climate at the minute and the expected competition. I think the hatred of pop comes from the fact that this is a fan forum for a band who's (in general opinion) downward spiral has coincided with their increasing use of chart-pop style music. I'm with them tbh. Coldplay can do so much more than chart music and that's why, in this context, I resent it. It seems to me after Viva they could have carried on being truly experimental, writing differently, continuing Viva's promise of better lyrics, adding new styles and instruments. That album should have been the genesis of a new, experimental Coldplay. They could have expanded on the shoegaze of Chinese Sleep Chant, the heaviness of Glass of Water, the classical of Postcards From Far Away. Instead they wrote simple, sing-a-long pop tunes and dressed them up in colourful Eno production. Not saying that's intrinsically a bad thing but it feels like a lack of ambition. In fact I think that sums up the feeling towards their new, chart-pop style - not inherently bad, but something of a let down.
August 30, 201510 yr I think he meant that for AHFOD to be a big success or even get to number one this fall it will have to be a poppy record. Makes sense to me. Of course exceptions are possible but that's a pretty solid argument, especially given the musical climate at the minute and the expected competition. I think the hatred of pop comes from the fact that this is a fan forum for a band who's (in general opinion) downward spiral has coincided with their increasing use of chart-pop style music. I'm with them tbh. Coldplay can do so much more than chart music and that's why, in this context, I resent it. It seems to me after Viva they could have carried on being truly experimental, writing differently, continuing Viva's promise of better lyrics, adding new styles and instruments. That album should have been the genesis of a new, experimental Coldplay. They could have expanded on the shoegaze of Chinese Sleep Chant, the heaviness of Glass of Water, the classical of Postcards From Far Away. Instead they wrote simple, sing-a-long pop tunes and dressed them up in colourful Eno production. Not saying that's intrinsically a bad thing but it feels like a lack of ambition. In fact I think that sums up the feeling towards their new, chart-pop style - not inherently bad, but something of a let down. You couldn't have said it better
August 30, 201510 yr I think he meant that for AHFOD to be a big success or even get to number one this fall it will have to be a poppy record. Makes sense to me. Of course exceptions are possible but that's a pretty solid argument, especially given the musical climate at the minute and the expected competition. I think the hatred of pop comes from the fact that this is a fan forum for a band who's (in general opinion) downward spiral has coincided with their increasing use of chart-pop style music. I'm with them tbh. Coldplay can do so much more than chart music and that's why, in this context, I resent it. It seems to me after Viva they could have carried on being truly experimental, writing differently, continuing Viva's promise of better lyrics, adding new styles and instruments. That album should have been the genesis of a new, experimental Coldplay. They could have expanded on the shoegaze of Chinese Sleep Chant, the heaviness of Glass of Water, the classical of Postcards From Far Away. Instead they wrote simple, sing-a-long pop tunes and dressed them up in colourful Eno production. Not saying that's intrinsically a bad thing but it feels like a lack of ambition. In fact I think that sums up the feeling towards their new, chart-pop style - not inherently bad, but something of a let down. Preach it, Brother
August 30, 201510 yr I think the hatred of pop comes from the fact that this is a fan forum for a band who's (in general opinion) downward spiral has coincided with their increasing use of chart-pop style music. I'm with them tbh. Coldplay can do so much more than chart music and that's why, in this context, I resent it. It seems to me after Viva they could have carried on being truly experimental, writing differently, continuing Viva's promise of better lyrics, adding new styles and instruments. That album should have been the genesis of a new, experimental Coldplay. They could have expanded on the shoegaze of Chinese Sleep Chant, the heaviness of Glass of Water, the classical of Postcards From Far Away. Instead they wrote simple, sing-a-long pop tunes and dressed them up in colourful Eno production. Not saying that's intrinsically a bad thing but it feels like a lack of ambition. In fact I think that sums up the feeling towards their new, chart-pop style - not inherently bad, but something of a let down. And of course it takes KidA to put into words what I could not understand before. I could respect that a hell of a lot more than "I hate pop music". As a rare 'oldplayer' who doesn't mind the direction the band is going, I think I kinda identify with this feeling of disappointment (as opposed to flat out hate).
August 30, 201510 yr ^ Although it won't be exactly like MX, with all the news we've been hearing about Chris wanting this to be an upbeat album that "people can shuffle their feet to," I think it's safe to say that AHFoD will fall in a similar vein as MX. We'll have those pop elements, hopefully with a few hints of rock mixed in.
August 30, 201510 yr Will this album be in the style of MX? I doubt it. It will be pop but not MX style of pop. A different sound.
August 30, 201510 yr Will this album be in the style of MX? No one knows for sure how the album will sound like. We do know it will be uplifting, colorful and 'danceable', but it won't be another MX. The band never does the same thing more than once, every album sounds different from the previous one and AHFOD won't be an exception. "I live to see the world"
August 30, 201510 yr Will this album be in the style of MX? I think no. Mainly because Coldplay have always up until now more or less reinvented their sound from album to album. But also because I envision something completely different. I think AHFOD will be much more stripped down, more direct with more bass, more dominant drums. I've described it before here. I think it will also make heavy use of synths and vocal effects. [smoke is rising from the houses]
August 30, 201510 yr ^ I hadn't thought of the "danceable" element being portrayed by heavier drum beats and basslines, but I could definitely see that as a possibility. The sound would probably be reminiscent of Imagine Dragons or Florence + the Machine, which to me is really cool. It also has the added bonus of being very different from any sound the guys have tried before. I hope we at least get a song or two like that, if it doesn't wind up being the sound of the whole album.
August 30, 201510 yr ^ I hadn't thought of the "danceable" element being portrayed by heavier drum beats and basslines, but I could definitely see that as a possibility. The sound would probably be reminiscent of Imagine Dragons or Florence + the Machine, which to me is really cool. It also has the added bonus of being very different from any sound the guys have tried before. I hope we at least get a song or two like that, if it doesn't wind up being the sound of the whole album. Adding to the whole "heavier drums" thing, I think Will deserves to be more present in the songs - both volume wise and maybe with more complex rhythms. [smoke is rising from the houses]
August 30, 201510 yr Come on coldplay, just release a song. I am tired of waiting till I hear anythng new, I at least wanna hear something so we can assess what the sound and feel of AHFOD will be. This drags on and it is only approx. 1,5 years since their last album. How did you guys survive the 3 year waits for example between AROBTTH and X&Y or X&Y and Viva ???
August 30, 201510 yr Will this album be in the style of MX? Thematically, this album will probably be very similar to MX. The actual sound, however, won't be quite the same. There will be the usual Coldplay sing-alongs and anthems, but they will be done differently from MX. I'm expecting a brighter version of the Ghost Stories sound with heavier rhythms and more real drums. Something tells me that AHFOD will have 1-2 songs that contain echoes of the first three albums, a little like Ghost Story, Oceans, and Atlas.
August 30, 201510 yr Come on coldplay, just release a song. I am tired of waiting till I hear anythng new, I at least wanna hear something so we can assess what the sound and feel of AHFOD will be. This drags on and it is only approx. 1,5 years since their last album. How did you guys survive the 3 year waits for example between AROBTTH and X&Y or X&Y and Viva ??? The wait between GS and AHFoD is a little different than the longer waiting periods between most of Coldplay's other albums for a couple of reasons. For one, each of those other albums was followed up by a massive international tour that lasted 2+ years. Even though we weren't hearing anything "new" from the band, we did get lots of pictures and audio of their performances which made the time pass faster. We also got lots of interviews and in the case of ARoBttH and MX, live DVDs. Secondly, by the time we started getting official news about each album, the guys were already very, very close to being done, if not done already. In the case of MX and GS, we didn't hear anything about the title or tracklisting until a month or two before the album dropped. And thirdly, GS has been generally accepted as a sort of side-project that wasn't really planned until Chris and Gwyneth split. The album that we are currently waiting on was probably supposed to follow MX but was pushed back (at least, that's the way I understand it). With AHFoD it's a little different because we've known about the title since, what, the beginning of this year? I think we've been accustomed to hearing the official title and then getting the actual album just a few months later, if that. Instead, we've been waiting, like, 6 months with no end in sight. We also didn't get the traditional international multi-year tour after GS like we have the other albums. That means very little live material, pictures, interviews, etc. (although we did get a live DVD shortly after the album dropped). Add that to the dozens of rumors flying around that we'll be hearing official news "soon" and it makes it seem like this 1.5-year wait is at the ending stages of a normal 3-year wait. Once the guys give us some official news, I feel that will get the ball rolling and the last leg of album anticipation will feel just like the lead-up to MX and GS.
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