ColdMartin Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 i really love AHFOD and i hope to hear more new stuff of this Amazing era i wonder if Stargate Involving in this EP too after the album itself and Miracles before .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square1.36 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 In this video, from the 7:14 mark, Chris mentions that off late songs have been "arriving" which are more guitar-based. Just thought it's appropriate to mention it here because it might hint a little at what we can expect from the EP but more than that it confirms it will have new material and not just left-over stuff from AHFOD 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arushofjacktothehead Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Please Coldplay! This is your chance! Impress me! Kaleidoscope should be the trippiest thing eve recorded if it stays true to it's name, and maybe we could finally redo the AHFOD tracklisting when it comes out... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getithom Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 In this video, from the 7:14 mark, Chris mentions that off late songs have been "arriving" which are more guitar-based. Just thought it's appropriate to mention it here because it might hint a little at what we can expect from the EP but more than that it confirms it will have new material and not just left-over stuff from AHFOD Awesome! I have a really great feeling about this EP. I also hope this means the setlist for 2017 grows like it did for the post-PM Viva concerts. It'd be cool if they even changed the final song like they did with LiTii. Coldplay. <3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMDB9 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Wouldnt it be great if there were B-sides to these B-sides??! Like The Goldrush to LiTii 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gai Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 one wish, please no stargate. let rik and dan do their thing. and guy too. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdMartin Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 one wish, please no stargate. let rik and dan do their thing. and guy too. i think the production in AHFOD was very good except - Everglow / Up&Up - otherwise Stargate did a good job at least comparing to the last 2 albums , MX and Ghost Stories .. what do you think ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I ran away Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 I dislike Stargate's production, especially the fact that they often throw in these chopped up vocal snippets in the background, ruining songs like AOAL or Army of One for me... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldplayisawesome Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 I dislike Stargate's production, especially the fact that they often throw in these chopped up vocal snippets in the background, ruining songs like AOAL or Army of One for me... agreed. that's really my only major issue with their production. personally the rest of it is fine by me, but the vocal chops don't FEEL like Coldplay, you know? it's clearly not something they would have come up with on their own and it doesn't really fit with who they are. :shrug: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square1.36 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 If only they could get Brian Eno again. What he did with VLVODAAHF is nothing short of godly, how does one even come up with stuff like Yes/Chinese Sleep Chant and DAAHF?! Oh, and Strawberry Swing. The music just seems unmakable in my head, only other genius that comes to mind who can pull off something so experimental is Thom Yorke. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdplayingfromKansas Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 If only they could get Brian Eno again. What he did with VLVODAAHF is nothing short of godly, how does one even come up with stuff like Yes/Chinese Sleep Chant and DAAHF?! Oh, and Strawberry Swing. The music just seems unmakable in my head, only other genius that comes to mind who can pull off something so experimental is Thom Yorke. Remember that Eno also produced MX though. Who we really need back is Jon Hopkins along with Eno! Those two complemented each other so well, I wish we could have gotten more than one album from them . . . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParadiseLost Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 No Stargate please :/ Though they may be good at what they do, what they do is just not my cup of tea, nor is it Coldplay's. I was fine with MX as well actually. It fit with what they were trying to do. It's just the production on AHFOD that has let me down. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I ran away Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 It's not gonna happen but I wish Ken Nelson and Rik Simpson would be the producer again.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftrightleftArchi Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 If only they could get Brian Eno again. What he did with VLVODAAHF is nothing short of godly, how does one even come up with stuff like Yes/Chinese Sleep Chant and DAAHF?! Oh, and Strawberry Swing. The music just seems unmakable in my head, only other genius that comes to mind who can pull off something so experimental is Thom Yorke. Honestly, the production on VLV was far from the best. It just wasn't clear at all. I think Ghost Stories, Parachutes and A Rush have the clearest production out of all the albums. I think people are overrating that album in terms of sound. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getithom Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Honestly, the production on VLV was far from the best. It just wasn't clear at all. I think Ghost Stories, Parachutes and A Rush have the clearest production out of all the albums. I think people are overrating that album in terms of sound. Agreed. I think you made me realize just why I can't enjoy Viva as much as some people.There's no denying the creativity on that album was spectacular, but the production sounds very muddled and hazy. With the separate songs, it works great, but within the album as a whole, it's very offputting for me personally. I do wonder who they have producing for Kaleidoscope, though. It's definitely seeming to be disassociated with AHFOD, so I don't see them going back to Stargate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMDB9 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 I am going to change the name of this thread now that we know the title 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdMartin Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 im a big fan of Brian Eno .. his work with U2 was outstanding even in Coldplay's VLVODAAHF but tbh i don't think his best work come with the modern pop genre .. MX was the worst album in term of the production .. it will be the same if Stragate for example involved in Coldplay earliest albums they won't fit in the alternative rock and the results will be disaster it's up to Coldplay and what kind of music they want to do .. for me Stargate did a fine job with AHFOD , even with the vocal snippets in the background i adore what they did in AOAL / Army Of One if it was me i will chose Ryan Tedder that guy will absolutely make the best of Coldplay and what they want to reach with the pop rock genra 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftrightleftArchi Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 if it was me i will chose Ryan Tedder that guy will absolutely make the best of Coldplay and what they want to reach with the pop rock genra As much as how much I (and Ryan Tedder) would LOVE a collaboration, let alone an entirely produced album, I dont think his production style is the best. Its GOOD, but its not the BEST. Certainly better than Stargate tho. Coldplay should work with Anthony Gonzalez of M83. I would love an experimental album with that epic M83 flare. Maybe even a Madeon collab like the one that was scrapped because it was too upbeat for Ghost Stories. I dont think Coldplay will return to their raw and rocky roots, but I do hope they go into the experimental electronic genre in the future. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdplayingfromKansas Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 ^ I'm just ready for them to move away from pop :lol: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp3176 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Sorry for not color coding and stuff guys. Too busy right now... This makes it official for 2017: [ATTACH=full]6320[/ATTACH] It also makes it official that there will be completely new songS coming out. And completely new, not just leftovers. Exciting times my friend :D Hmm, I have to say I'm not so sure about that part. The Prospekt's March EP's sound and style were 100% Viva Era and in retrospect I can't find any hint of the sound or style of the MX Era in it... Well both LiTii and Glass of Water both had that upbeat sound that would come to dominate the MX era. Those, and the title track to an extent, are also using more synths to create sort of an electronic rock atmosphere, especially with GoW, when it explodes you can hear that synth sound thingy in the background, just a really dense explosive song that would be explored in the following era. Lost+ explored collaborating with big name artists which they did with Rihanna in the following album, I think that song could have paved the way for PoC which I personally like (and surprisingly you do too to an extent...) (So underrated!!! As is the whole MX era...) Seriously, LiJ seriously reminds me of MX, especially that sound at the beginning that sounds like a higher pitched, less "rocky", and lighter version of the sound in that one really epic section of Major Minus (before the guitar solo... starts around 2:05) Just everything about it, sounds like a Coldplay evolving into their next sound but still kind of within the dominant sound at the time. Seriously, if it were placed in MX I don't think it would sound that out of place. Now My Feet Won't Touch The Ground is reminiscent of the acoustic songs in MX. I know this was just released 6 months after Viva but I think even in that timeframe some sort of evolution in their sound can happen. As for the era as a whole hinting towards a poppier theme, I noticed that the title of Lovers in Japan/Reign of Love is inspired off of one of the names of Justin Timberlake's albums, where it's also a split title like that. (FutureSex/LoveSounds) Around this time he started becoming friends with big pop acts, all the while the band only seeing to explore more diversity in their music. And of course they did the thing with Jay Z. Overall as the band progressed, from one album to the next, ever since Parachutes their sound has gotten bigger and louder, not counting anything after Mylo, which was their peak (I even think it's more explosive than AHFOD, which is a good thing. If you're going to make uplifting music, don't try to hide it a bit. Go all out! That's what they missed in AHFOD. It's what made MX so good for me.) Thanks for your explanation, @beastwars, but i think the Prospekt's March EP didn't show anything in terms of musical direction that wasn't already apparent from the actual album (ok, maybe the Jay-Z thing). Agree that Atlas and Miracles foreshadowed the future album sounds pretty well, but I don't think the EP will because it will be a hundred percent "leftovers" from the AHFOD recording sessions, I think. Actually, they said they're working on new songs so maybe the songs other than the originals could be the leftovers... i think it makes more sense for Kaleidoscope EP to suggest future styles than it would have for PM to do so. PM came out within six months of VLVODAAHF whereas this is going to be more than a year between. PM was definitely songs "leftover" or at least developed in parallel with VLVODAAHF... maybe songs on Kaleidoscope will have come from the development of AHFOD but i think enough time has passed that these songs could have gone through a different evolution, if that makes sense. it may not end up being exactly like what they put out next, but i agree that it certainly could lean more that way. the smileys haven't been around since the maintenance update a few weeks ago. they'll probably come back eventually but it's not a priority. so for now we have to make do with broken links :lol: All good points, I agree! And this EP will actually come out later than a year too. If PM hinted at new styles with the more synths and upbeat sounds on LiT and GoW, I can only imagine what this will show off, since it's been more than twice that long now. That soundcheck was interesting, and the fact they said more guitar based songs are on the way makes me even more excited. Hopefully this time will be the time where a lot of the people here are going to be pleasently surprised!!!!! :D I am being hopefully pessimistic (if that's a thing :p ). Coldplay have not really gone that deep into an album (let alone an EP) in a long time. I would be really let down if they are another bunch of 'colorful' songs. Personally I like the black and white (lol) ones. (I loved Ghost Story) Again with the EP, I think it would be a kind of transition into a period where they are much more unshackled. I think that was the reason why they are doing an EP and not an album (in the near future). An album requires all this really hard work into the artwork, etc but an EP can just be about the music. So though I don't expect really great songs like the first 4, but I remain hopeful of 1-2 hidden gems. Plus, it's new Coldplay, how bad can it be ;) I really love the colorful songs Coldplay has done. But as we all know Coldplay don't quite do things three times. Really colorful songs they did on MX and AHFOD. So I wouldn't really expect that. And who knows, hopefully we'll be pleasently surprised and get some really good stuff :D i think the production in AHFOD was very good except - Everglow / Up&Up - otherwise Stargate did a good job at least comparing to the last 2 albums , MX and Ghost Stories .. what do you think ? ...huh? I don't hear how MX production is worse than AHFOD, I mean it sounds just so much nicer, and it really isn't overly watered down and electronic like this era can be... Correct production for the style. Quite a few layers, yes. But it makes it interesting... I don't know, Eno I guess did a really good job on it, it sounded so nice, especially the small instrumental sections before some of the songs... It's amazing... GS is beautiful production wise. In contrast to the era before it it allowed some breathing room for the sounds in that era in most songs. They weren't afraid ot silence in parts. And really the better songs of the era are so beautiful and atmospheric... really a wonderful job in that era by them... My opinion here.. If only they could get Brian Eno again. What he did with VLVODAAHF is nothing short of godly, how does one even come up with stuff like Yes/Chinese Sleep Chant and DAAHF?! Oh, and Strawberry Swing. The music just seems unmakable in my head, only other genius that comes to mind who can pull off something so experimental is Thom Yorke. I know right? For creativity especially the Viva era was their peak. Truly original stuff, I mean look at The Goldrush or A Spell A Rebel Yell as well. How one can think of those songs... beyond me. A lot of the songs are like that, if they were by any normal band they'd sound much more "normal" and restricted, here they really expand in diversity... I agree about Thom Yorke as well.... absolute genious. Remember that Eno also produced MX though. Who we really need back is Jon Hopkins along with Eno! Those two complemented each other so well, I wish we could have gotten more than one album from them . . . Yeah, he's what made MX actually good. AHFOD and MX are similar albums. The difference? One produced by Eno and one by Stargate. What sounds truer, more genuine and overall better fitting to Coldplay's actual sound and for creativity sake? Eno's production on MX. I bet without him that would have been a worse album... I mean there's so many layers and stuck down far in the mix is some really cool stuff, and I like it down there because over time when you listen to the song you discover these things, for example there's this really neat background synth sound in Charlie Brown that's easier to hear with the instrumental, I really noticed it when making an extended version of it. Little things like that ya know. Every song on the album IMO is just wonderfully produced. A really atmospheric upbeat pop rock album. And the rocky side at that. Some "pop rock" is really overly poppy, MX ain't like that really... :D Jon Hopkins and Eno would be extremely fun again. Both absolute geniouses what they do. Them together... amazing im a big fan of Brian Eno .. his work with U2 was outstanding even in Coldplay's VLVODAAHF but tbh i don't think his best work come with the modern pop genre .. MX was the worst album in term of the production .. it will be the same if Stragate for example involved in Coldplay earliest albums they won't fit in the alternative rock and the results will be disaster it's up to Coldplay and what kind of music they want to do .. for me Stargate did a fine job with AHFOD , even with the vocal snippets in the background i adore what they did in AOAL / Army Of One if it was me i will chose Ryan Tedder that guy will absolutely make the best of Coldplay and what they want to reach with the pop rock genra What?!!? Sorry but MX isn't "modern pop" (if I'm reading your statement correctly). Stargate watered down AHFOD a lot, and even with the super high quality files I got which is a massive improvement and allows me to hear some things much better than the leaked version I still had before that, I still prefer MX's production and is probably my favorite production out of any album. I don't see anything wrong with it.. suits Coldplay's style, and the style of the music to truly bring out what's best in it. More info on why I like it above, this whole post is long enough already... Ouchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Stargate in Coldplay's earliest albums? Don't even get me started thinking about it! Nonononoononon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm not mad at the vocal snippets like some people are here. I think they fit the song really well and it's just something cool I guess... BTW from my above post don't think I'm getting mad at Stargate, I think he did good too but completely wrecked Up&Up (seriously, it sounds like there are tracks missing in there at points). Don't know too much about Ryan Tedder... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM-42 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Surprised to see so much optimism from people who aren't fond of AHFOD for this. Honestly, at this point I just expect a hidden gem and a bunch of pop oriented generic songs for this EP. Hope I'm wrong. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp3176 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Surprised to see so much optimism from people who aren't fond of AHFOD for this. Honestly, at this point I just expect a hidden gem and a bunch of pop oriented generic songs for this EP. Hope I'm wrong. Hope your wrong too! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldplayisawesome Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 If only they could get Brian Eno again. What he did with VLVODAAHF is nothing short of godly, how does one even come up with stuff like Yes/Chinese Sleep Chant and DAAHF?! Oh, and Strawberry Swing. The music just seems unmakable in my head, only other genius that comes to mind who can pull off something so experimental is Thom Yorke. Remember that Eno also produced MX though. Who we really need back is Jon Hopkins along with Eno! Those two complemented each other so well, I wish we could have gotten more than one album from them . . . Yeah, he's what made MX actually good. AHFOD and MX are similar albums. The difference? One produced by Eno and one by Stargate. What sounds truer, more genuine and overall better fitting to Coldplay's actual sound and for creativity sake? Eno's production on MX. I bet without him that would have been a worse album... I mean there's so many layers and stuck down far in the mix is some really cool stuff, and I like it down there because over time when you listen to the song you discover these things, for example there's this really neat background synth sound in Charlie Brown that's easier to hear with the instrumental, I really noticed it when making an extended version of it. Little things like that ya know. Every song on the album IMO is just wonderfully produced. A really atmospheric upbeat pop rock album. And the rocky side at that. Some "pop rock" is really overly poppy, MX ain't like that really... :D Jon Hopkins and Eno would be extremely fun again. Both absolute geniouses what they do. Them together... amazing *jumps over and whispers* don't forget about Markus Dravs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beastwars Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Talking about the "dream producer", imho it's better to collab with somebody new instead of calling the same people again, but they have to choose very well. I read the names you wrote in this thread and I completely dislike people like Madeon and Ryan Tedder, they're too far into mainstream electropop music, and that's not the kind of music I want from Coldplay. I would really like Anthony Gonzalez (M83) instead, he could be particularly fitting for them. But if I had to say my dream producer, I think that the best producer on earth at the moment is RΠЯ (Keep Shelly In Athens) because of his incredible personal and really modern touch on dreampop and chillwave music. Another idea could be making an album with only Jon Hopkins as a producer, I'd be very curious about that. And the last idea, the most intriguing imho, is the band autoproducing themselves, I think that Guy is ready for this. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMDB9 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 So basically they are reporting on random guesses people have made in this forum [MEDIA=twitter]801741346587508737[/MEDIA] Mobile Link: https://twitter.com/ColdplayFrance/status/801741346587508737 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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