Jedi Leo Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 What do you mean with dissonnant chord progressions ? I always thought they were a trademaks sign of Radiohead, not Coldplay. Can you give some examples ? Unusual structure is probably a better word for it, slightly dissonant, unexpected, basically overall less "catchy". Not as much as Radiohead no hehe and not as accentuated as in "True Love" but the unusual chord progression and also unusual melody structure is to be found in most of Parachutes and some of A Rush. Off the top of my head some songs I think have this unusual melodic style are GPASUMF, some of spies, sparks, we never change, High speed, etc. I find this structure is prominent in Parachutes, still a bit there in A Rush, then almost completely disappear in X&Y. To my ears that's when Coldplay make almost every song a "catchy" song using more usual harmonious chord/melody structures. We can still find examples of this "unusual style" later on but it's very limited (for example Moving to Mars). I may be wrong but I suspect this is also partly why some prefer the older stuff cuz this structure overall gives a song a hint of more sophistication, less "catchy", and tend to make the song a bit more somber, serious. Anyways that's something that popped up to my ears when I compare the early work with later ones :) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Leo Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 I'd recommend you to do that, Parachutes has a great flow as an album and creates an incredibly great, warm, cosy atmosphere :) As the good Coldplayer that I am I tried haha but whereas I can listen to a track or two standalone no problem, I can't listen to to the whole album cuz it just tends to put my mood down or it just gets too slow at some parts as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthamic Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 I think they will always play Yellow and Clocks. Don't they? Yeah they do, I was just kidding about it. Sent from my Death Star using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthamic Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Happy New Year oldplayers! May we be blessed by a delightful year of hoping they play Twisted Logic!! Sent from my Death Star using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gideon_Mx Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Do you guys also have a problem with changing your avatar? I see you can only use an avatar with pretty low solution or a very small one!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp3176 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 ^ Yeah I think Midnight is completely warm yet almost fully synth, so thats good example imo. IMO Midnight is warm in a way but it's also kind of cool. Don't know how to explain it but it has the blue cool feel that all the other GS songs have to me anyways. Oooooooh did someone say ambient:wacky: I love ambient music. Coldplay have done a bit of this: see Midnight, Such A Rush Intro, Postcards From Far Away, Chinese Sleep Chant, Aiko, Moving To Mars, O I love ambient music as well, probably not one track from that genre I dislike. I love those really long ambient mixes on YouTube, I have no idea how they do it but it just flows so well even though it changes so much... they take their time with it. I find it really, really enjoyable. I'd have loved if GS was more ambient album, unfortunately that really only happened with Midnight and O :( But they did just such a wonderful job on Midnight, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choldplayer Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 So I was listening to the Radiohead James Bond theme earlier today (wow, what a track) and this to me really shows whats involved in interesting music, it's quite dissonant and there's so much going on in it, you could listen to it a hundred times over and hear something new in it each time. Coldplay used to write interesting melodies with strange chord structures which were sonically great also like thjs. I just can't believe they've now gone in completely the opposite direction and are now giving us generic songs with such dull structure that gets boring after a few spins. It's a complete devolution of songwriting. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
likeafire Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 I'm sorry to say but the old Coldplay is never coming back. The mediocre new one is here to stay forever. Sad times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Leo Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 So I was listening to the Radiohead James Bond theme earlier today (wow, what a track) and this to me really shows whats involved in interesting music, it's quite dissonant and there's so much going on in it, you could listen to it a hundred times over and hear something new in it each time. Coldplay used to write interesting melodies with strange chord structures which were sonically great also like thjs. I just can't believe they've now gone in completely the opposite direction and are now giving us generic songs with such dull structure that gets boring after a few spins. It's a complete devolution of songwriting. Yeah thats kinda what I meant about the dissonant chord structure. It does make a song sound more interesting and for lack of a better word more sophisticated. Shiver comes to mind. I can see why you and many others would prefer that: the structure of say Shiver is definitely more complicated and "rich" than a song like Lost. Yet Ill tell you my brain tells me I should like the sophistication better, but my heart and ears won't hear of it *LOL* Its like I can appreciate how they are better in the sense that their structure is just more rich and goes in directions unexpected, but I dont seem to enjoy them more just because of that factor. So there... I think different structures appeal to different parts of our selves perhaps? :) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I ran away Posted December 31, 2015 Author Share Posted December 31, 2015 Thanks for your explanations ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I ran away Posted December 31, 2015 Author Share Posted December 31, 2015 So I was listening to the Radiohead James Bond theme earlier today (wow, what a track) and this to me really shows whats involved in interesting music, it's quite dissonant and there's so much going on in it, you could listen to it a hundred times over and hear something new in it each time. Coldplay used to write interesting melodies with strange chord structures which were sonically great also like thjs. I just can't believe they've now gone in completely the opposite direction and are now giving us generic songs with such dull structure that gets boring after a few spins. It's a complete devolution of songwriting. Post of the day ! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Leo Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Kinda reminds me of guitar solos...I dont seem to enjoy the intricate ones just because they are intricate, like the mere factor that they are elaborate does not play a big role in my liking them or not. Jonny can hit 3 notes and he´s got me right there! haha I truly believe music resonates with something deep in our soul, so hard to put your finger on what it is as much as you try there is very little logic to it hehe Then sometimes when you think you got your "formula" all figured out, a song you never thought you´d like surprises you and you like it and you dont know why...and you´re back at square one haha :) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftrightleftArchi Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Just discovered this version of How You See The World No. 2 Only heard the live version which is alot more powerful, but this one is still good. Liking the guitar effects. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Leo Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 ^^Thats the only version I ever had/heard. Bought it on iTunes. A stunning song. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I ran away Posted January 1, 2016 Author Share Posted January 1, 2016 Jonny can hit 3 notes and he´s got me right there! That is right, too. While I like the complex structures of the AROBTTH songs I realized when playing the melodies on keyboard that many of the lead melodies are actually so simple (example: the riff of In My Place, or Clocks) that you wonder why nobody else has discovered them before Coldplay :D 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftrightleftArchi Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Check out my mashup of Every Breaking Wave (By U2) and Birds here: http://www.coldplaying.com/forum/index.php?threads/every-breaking-wave-by-u2-birds-mashup-by-archiderp.105670/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spice Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 That is right, too. While I like the complex structures of the AROBTTH songs I realized when playing the melodies on keyboard that many of the lead melodies are actually so simple (example: the riff of In My Place, or Clocks) that you wonder why nobody else has discovered them before Coldplay :D Easy to learn and play but very hard to create Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gentleparachute Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Check out my mashup of Every Breaking Wave (By U2) and Birds here: http://www.coldplaying.com/forum/index.php?threads/every-breaking-wave-by-u2-birds-mashup-by-archiderp.105670/ OT - I was going to say, has anyone else noticed that these two albums (Songs of Innocence and AHFOD) play well side by side each other? I relistened to Songs of Innocence again after watching U2 perform a cracking set on their i+e tour on tv, noticed a lot more detail to the songs, then thought AHFOD has a similar musical palette... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldiefan Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 After listening to shuffled CP tracks on a 2 hour journey today - I've realised I much prefer the old stuff to the new. I better join this thread. :nod: :nod: :nod: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I ran away Posted January 2, 2016 Author Share Posted January 2, 2016 After listening to shuffled CP tracks on a 2 hour journey today - I've realised I much prefer the old stuff to the new. I better join this thread. :nod: :nod: :nod: Welcome ! :D 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beastwars Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 OT - I was going to say, has anyone else noticed that these two albums (Songs of Innocence and AHFOD) play well side by side each other? I relistened to Songs of Innocence again after watching U2 perform a cracking set on their i+e tour on tv, noticed a lot more detail to the songs, then thought AHFOD has a similar musical palette... Well, basically Every Breaking Wave and Army Of One are the same song, and AHFOD itself is very U2ish in a disco pop key Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beastwars Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Too many memories..... It's true, we're always looking out for one another 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choldplayer Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 After listening to shuffled CP tracks on a 2 hour journey today - I've realised I much prefer the old stuff to the new. I better join this thread. :nod: :nod: :nod: You have a good taste in music :-) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spice Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 After listening to shuffled CP tracks on a 2 hour journey today - I've realised I much prefer the old stuff to the new. I better join this thread. :nod: :nod: :nod: welcome welcome 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp3176 Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 So I was listening to the Radiohead James Bond theme earlier today (wow, what a track) and this to me really shows whats involved in interesting music, it's quite dissonant and there's so much going on in it, you could listen to it a hundred times over and hear something new in it each time. Coldplay used to write interesting melodies with strange chord structures which were sonically great also like thjs. I just can't believe they've now gone in completely the opposite direction and are now giving us generic songs with such dull structure that gets boring after a few spins. It's a complete devolution of songwriting. They did have stronger songwriting in the past but I'd argue, they're not very "dull" today either. They still have great songwriting abilities, just not with the magic as with Oldplay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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