Why doesn't this ever get played live?

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This song is so amazing, such a great closer.

Hope they play it soon!!!
 

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Could you explain to what extent they are relying less on backing tracks?

Songs like Princess of China and Paradise, to name just two, are heavily dependent on backing tracks, not to mention bits in various songs where they use pre-recorded keyboards.
The only backing track used in Paradise is the background string arrangement and MX songs (except for POC) generally use less pre recorded stuff than the Viva ones (see Lit 1 and 2, Lost, 42, LiJ and Viva itself)
 

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UWTB is the best song.
Great musically where the "Eno fairy dust" actually dosent seem OTT, Great lyrically and perfect length.
 

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The only backing track used in Paradise is the background string arrangement and MX songs (except for POC) generally use less pre recorded stuff than the Viva ones (see Lit 1 and 2, Lost, 42, LiJ and Viva itself)
I think Viva and Paradise have comparable ammounts of pre-recorded sounds.

As a non-specialist, I think the Viva songs you mentioned use, individually, a small proportion of backing tracks, considering how much this kind of device is used in a song like PoC, which includes pre-recorded vocals.

Anyway, I think I'm saying this just because I appreciate the hability of delivering a organic live performance, a as live as possible one. It's always possible to create a new version of a song to play it live. What also annoys me is that they use pre-recorded keyboards in a song like ETIAW even though, it seems to me, it could be done live.
 

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I'll get them to play it at my wedding (any offers?) i think it adds to the mystique tha they don't play it. I love it, just wissh is was slgihtly longer in length
 

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I don't think UWTB ought to be that hard. I think it, and UFO, are just having a delayed entry because the boys don't see them fitting in the setlist as of now. Or perhaps, they're devising a really cool way to play them that is taking them time to perfect. That was certainly the case with DLIBYH, because they were playing it in soundcheck pretty early, but we see now that they had to lower the key of the song by a half step (probably to make it easier to sing), and they made it so that Chris plays electric guitar.

But what does UWTB need? Strings? Ah's? Those are completely feasible, considering VLV, considering the noises in Charlie Brown. One thing I think that might be stopping them is that UWTB's second half is a bit hard to sing, but I'm sure Chris will figure that out.

I think Viva and Paradise have comparable ammounts of pre-recorded sounds.

As a non-specialist, I think the Viva songs you mentioned use, individually, a small proportion of backing tracks, considering how much this kind of device is used in a song like PoC, which includes pre-recorded vocals.

Anyway, I think I'm saying this just because I appreciate the hability of delivering a organic live performance, a as live as possible one. It's always possible to create a new version of a song to play it live. What also annoys me is that they use pre-recorded keyboards in a song like ETIAW even though, it seems to me, it could be done live.
Backing tracks are always an interesting topic to me so, so here's my take:

Be careful, also, when you say "pre-recorded" because certain backing tracks aren't actually pre-recorded and are played live in some capacity. The best example of this is the bit of keyboard that Chris plays at the beginning of LIJ, which then gets repeated for the whole song. But for a lot of songs, a member of the band may be playing a synth or backing item for part of the song and then switch to their own instrument. The rest seems to be prerecorded but it's tricky to tell.

I'd say VLV's songs edge out MX for reliance by just a little only because of VLV itself...but both albums use a lot of synthesizers that are being thrown on top of everything else, either as pre-recorded backing tracks or as live things that become backing tracks. My opinion is that there is no song on MX that "falls apart" without synth compared to VLV (fall apart isn't a bad thing, since stripped versions of songs tend to be really good esp with Coldplay, I mean to say - lose what they sound like originally).

For funsies, I'm going to do a song by song breakdown of what is on the backing tracks and then bold the songs that in my opinion, lose integrity when you remove the backing tracks.
LIT - would fall apart without the dulcimer part that is on the backing tracak
COL - minimal backing track, just noises/extra drumbeat I think
Lost - live organ (Jonny) becomes backing track, possibly extra drums and vocals
42 - only has strings
LIJ - keyboard starts out live (Chris), atmospheric guitar bits
Reign of Love - none (!)
Yes - strings
VLV - strings start out live (Jonny)
Violet Hill - piano on backing track
Strawberry Swing - organs and strings, 2nd guitar
DAAHF - near the end of the bridge, there are some guitar-feedback noises that are on the backing track

MX - little melodies and noises near the end are on the backing track
HLH - a lot of synth on backing track
Paradise - strings/synth (Jonny) becomes backing track. I've also found, based on the footage at the Summertime Ball that some of the piano is on the backing track because there's a moment when Chris holds the mic and doesn't play piano, yet you still hear piano. But a lot of what Chris plays falls on *top* of that backing track so it's mostly live, if that makes sense.
Charlie Brown - the noises, some piano
UATW - none (!)
MMIX/ETIAW - synth (Guy) and acoustic guitar (Will) become backing tracks
Major Minus - some noises throughout
U.F.O. - they haven't played it live, but if they stay true to the album version, it'd obviously need a lot of strings but my suspicion is that it will be adapted to guitar/piano for Jonny and Will
POC - synth, strings, and Rihanna's vocals
UIF - strings
AHT/DLIBYH - AHT is entirely backing track, as is the end of DLIBYH. But DLIBYH itself just has some noises.
UWTB - would require the ahh's, and the strings in the middle

In my opinion, VLV has more songs that stop sounding like what they are when you remove the backing tracks. Take MX's biggest hits - if you listen to acoustic versions of Charlie Brown, Paradise, and ETIAW...they don't sound all too different from the studio version compared to acoustic versions of VLV and Lost.
 

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they should skip the first part and play the rest as a closer to the show. that second part is breathtaking
 

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Because it's not a really stong song to be played on a gig, it's gorgeous, like Reign Of Love, but not good to play live.
c'mon up in flames is worse to play live, the second halfpart of up with the birds is so energetic
 
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