alexix7 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 I guess Chris really meant it when he said that they would be full of surprises from then, what a great song Coloratura is.Β 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarbageOffice Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 10 minutes ago, alexix7 said: I guess Chris really meant it when he said that they would be full of surprises from then, what a great song Coloratura is.Β Yeah, and releasing a single from actual space was just one of the casual things they do. (...jk, you're right) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosesTheMarshmallow Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 hour ago, DΓ©jΓ Vu said: Hi everyone! I'm new here. I've been following this thread since last year but I never created my account until now though. Coloratura is a total masterpiece, the bestΒ song Coldplay have ever written since AROBTTH.Β I wanted to say also that maybe Rescue St is under the name of Human Heart, I remember an interview where the bandΒ saidΒ that this song was only focused on vocals, probably the music remains the same but lyrics are different or they had to change the title due to the new album concept (planets, space and universe). And this is not the only example out there. Just listen to Humankind intro we've already listened so far in the album trailer, it sounds the exact way on Life is Beautiful, but the name is totally different and maybe that's what happens all the time with the song titles and song structures of unreleased music from the band. Remember also that Car kids guitar riff was later released as Vodoo under Los Unidades, and elements from The Blue Room were incorporated into Square One. The same happened with December, which turned into Violet Hill and so on. Maybe The Race will come out with a different title and is already included into MOTS. Who knows? Imo, Coloratura sounds that was composed originally in the X&Y era, but in that time was not fully completed and sounded "passionless" as Chris mentioned once in an interview when the band was composing a lot of songs that were about to be included in the album, but they were ditched then. Remember that 42 songs were ditched from X&Y. Maybe the new album contains songs from that era. Interesting theory! My guess is that Coloratura was written at the same time as SJLT, Champion of the World, and Flags based on lyrics, and Hypnotised (esp the guitar solo and piano parts) and AICTAIY (for the chord changes) and ALIENS based on music, noting that Coloratura has a brief 5/4 section that sounds vaguely like the end of ALIENS. So my personal guess is 2017, but you could also totally make an argument that itβs from X&Y based on the space themes! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
driftaguy Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 hour ago, DΓ©jΓ Vu said: Hi everyone! I'm new here. I've been following this thread since last year but I never created my account until now though. Coloratura is a total masterpiece, the bestΒ song Coldplay have ever written since AROBTTH.Β I wanted to say also that maybe Rescue St is under the name of Human Heart, I remember an interview where the bandΒ saidΒ that this song was only focused on vocals, probably the music remains the same but lyrics are different or they had to change the title due to the new album concept (planets, space and universe). And this is not the only example out there. Just listen to Humankind intro we've already listened so far in the album trailer, it sounds the exact way on Life is Beautiful, but the name is totally different and maybe that's what happens all the time with the song titles and song structures of unreleased music from the band. Remember also that Car kids guitar riff was later released as Vodoo under Los Unidades, and elements from The Blue Room were incorporated into Square One. The same happened with December, which turned into Violet Hill and so on. Maybe The Race will come out with a different title and is already included into MOTS. Who knows? Imo, Coloratura sounds that was composed originally in the X&Y era, but in that time was not fully completed and sounded "passionless" as Chris mentioned once in an interview when the band was composing a lot of songs that were about to be included in the album, but they were ditched then. Remember that 42 songs were ditched from X&Y. Maybe the new album contains songs from that era. Human Heart is what we've already heard. It duesnt have anything to do with Rescue St.Β Where did you hear about the Car Kids riff being in Voodoo? As Voodoo was already an MX-era song that existed at the same time as Car Kids.Β Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
driftaguy Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, MosesTheMarshmallow said: Interesting theory! My guess is that Coloratura was written at the same time as SJLT, Champion of the World, and Flags based on lyrics, and Hypnotised (esp the guitar solo and piano parts) and AICTAIY (for the chord changes) and ALIENS based on music, noting that Coloratura has a brief 5/4 section that sounds vaguely like the end of ALIENS. So my personal guess is 2017, but you could also totally make an argument that itβs from X&Y based on the space themes! ALIENS existed in 2009/2010 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrisonrules Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 2 hours ago, IcebatofvalikinRRBZ8 said: I like HP more than Coloratura. And Coloratura isnβt my favorite and probably wonβt be on this album. Sorry I donβt feel the same way about Coloratura than like 99% of you all.Β What do you mean it won't be on the album? Its already been announced.Β 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Manfredonia Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 14 minutes ago, harrisonrules said: What do you mean it won't be on the album? Its already been announced.Β I think he means βand wonβt be (his favorite)Β on this album.β 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrisonrules Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Tony Manfredonia said: I think he means βand wonβt be (his favorite)Β on this album.β That makes sense thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42Escapist Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 7 hours ago, MosesTheMarshmallow said: [sorry to be double reposting here because i can't tell if the Coloratura thread or this thread is where all the action is at lol] What a brilliant song in every possible way! My only complaint is Jonny's solo is a bit short. But my first few thoughts: -TheΒ refugee-centric narrative becomes more clear here. MOTSvol1 sounds like a journey for an alien to somewhere that welcomes them.Β -The lyrics have an interesting common thread withΒ SJLT and Flags, in which there's a lot of naming-of-historical-figures (if you count superheroes as historical figures). It's not my instant favourite way of being as compared to early Coldplay's vague angst, VLV era vague 1800s angst, or Up&Up which is full of fun imagery/literary references. But it works and it's cool.Β Various stylistic thoughts: -What an interesting evolution ofΒ Moving to Mars, Gravity, DaddyΒ in particular. The harps and strings are a great touch. I hope they can recreate all of that live!! Common to MTM and Coloratura and also HP is how much heavy lifting Will does vocally. He sounds GREAT.Β -A lot of Lydian mode is used in Coloratura, ie if you have a piano in front of you, play an F-to-F scale only on the white keys (as opposed to having a B-flat). You know what else is in Lydian mode?Β the theme to Back to the FutureΒ (and also the Simpsons lol).Β -Jonny tweeted on the CP Q+A that he was experimenting with aΒ Meris Enzo synthesizer pedal.Β You can really hear it in the 1st chorus and a few other spots where the guitar is super um, synth-like. Eg the tremolo effect with shifting filter. And later he plays a melody that sounds like a synth but pretty sure it's generated from the guitar. SUPER COOL. -The bassline is so cool! Phil tweeted and referred to it as "waterfall". It reminds me a lot of Explorers by Muse: Β -The piano is obviously very good. A lot of chromaticism and interesting chord changes very reminiscent of Bohemian Rhapsdody and also United States of Eurasia by Muse: Β Well-said. I'd like to add that ALIENS has a refugee-centric narrative too. And the name for Moving to Mars came from a Mat Whitecross documentary about Burmese refugees. Anyways, I'm glad someone else got Muse vibes. It reminds me of the grandiosity of some of Matt Bellamy's piano playing, with lots of classical influences. As I listen to Coloratura more and more, I hear lots of similarities to United States of Eurasia, including its outro which comes from a classical piano piece by Chopin. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepstr Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 that Coloratura solo reminds me of one in Moving to Mars 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrisonrules Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 2 hours ago, stepstr said: that Coloratura solo reminds me of one in Moving to Mars That seems to be a popular thinking here 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamingForeverAUS Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 will is precious and we must protect him at all costs. here is a snippet of his backing vocals from the 5.1 rip I extracted. Β 1 11 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X AND Y Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 (edited) Do you guys think that Vol.2 will be also produced by Max Martin as well? Because I assumed, thatΒ some older songs (MX Era) would make it to this album and it seems they won't be. Mainly the onesΒ produced with Brian Eno, so I'm not sure if that's the reason why they are not on this one, as Max Martin probably won't be "reusing" them, if that makes sense. I don't know much about any of the legal stuff, but that was just a random thought since there are a lot of MX songs that have been teased and so far it seems none of them will be on Vol.1... Edited July 24, 2021 by X AND Y 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnymax8652 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 9 minutes ago, X AND Y said: Do you guys think that Vol.2 will be also produced by Max Martin as well? Because I assumed, thatΒ some older songs (MX Era) would make it to this album and it seems they won't be. Mainly the onesΒ produced with Brian Eno, so I'm not sure if that's the reason why they are not on this one, as Max Martin probably won't be "reusing" them, if that makes sense. I don't know much about any of the legal stuff, but that was just a random thought since there are a lot of MX songs that have been teased and so far it seems none of them will be on Vol.1... I really hope Brian Eno will produce vol. 2, but I guess they will keep Max Martin on the same project and I think they generally start from new songs, the only exception was for EL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X AND Y Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 34 minutes ago, johnnymax8652 said: I really hope Brian Eno will produce vol. 2, but I guess they will keep Max Martin on the same project and I think they generally start from new songs, the only exception was for EL That would be so awesome, although after Coloratura I don't have a problem with him producing the other songs,Β if they'reΒ anything like this masterpiece..Β On ALIENS, Brian Eno was credited.Β So I'm pretty sure if they were to release other songs from the MX Era that it would be the same, anywaysΒ can't wait to see where this project will go ? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepstr Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Coldplay x Eno reunion would be great for sure, but so unlikely. I can't see any of them looking back and getting together again.Β Β 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP-EST Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 I think Max Martin is best for Coldplay right now. There's a reason why he's so successful and a lot of people don't actually realise exactly why. He might seem like a pop producer and pop songwriter, but he's so much more. He actually started in rock music and his versatility is actually limitless, in studio he is allround great, because he is actually good at engineering and mixing too, but he doesn't do that much himself anymore.Β I think it's a great opportunity for him as well to work with a band and prove through Coldplay that he's very versatile. And it's very important they have someone who's got hunger to produce. Brian Eno on the other hand is a bit different producer, he has produced a LOT for different bands already. I wouldn't exlcude him working again with Coldplay, but right it's probably not in their minds. Brian Eno has produced for U2 on several occasions and he has always capability to bring something new, so who knows what future brings. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaFeehily Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 To be honest, I think it's too early to judge how well this collaboration with Max Martin worked out. Personally, I believe he's great at what he does, there's a reason for his immense success. That alone doesn't make him and Coldplay a dream team in my eyes though. On Coloratura it worked out very well, on HP less so (probably it's more his involvement as songwriter than producer that I'm not a fan of). I'd be surprised if they worked with Brian Eno again, or any of their other producers. If they want to keep evolving working with different people would make sense, in terms of their producers as well as their art directors etc. Β 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Philosopher Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Regarding the producers talk, I'm still hoping someday they will be produced by the great Gregg Alexander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famous Old Painter Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 I wonder how many 10 minute prog songs Max Martin has produced in his timeΒ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gustavothehuman Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 12 hours ago, GamingForeverAUS said: will is precious and we must protect him at all costs. here is a snippet of his backing vocals from the 5.1 rip I extracted. Β we need this man doing main vocals on studio songs asapΒ 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcfromparis Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 On 7/23/2021 at 5:11 PM, harrisonrules said: When you are listening on YouTube and the ad kicks in seconds before the solo... You can subscribe freely for a month for YouTube Premium. I did it. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xyloband_99 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 We all speculating about vol. 2 but we shouldn't trust them about second parts of projects. Many of them are not became real. How We Saw The World Part 2, Mylo Xyloto 2 (This was so popular rumour in that time), Mylo Xyloto Comics Vol. 2 (Comics has Vol. 1 writing in them). So it can named something different or some elements can be used in another project, naming something Vol. 1 and then releasing Vol. 2 is not Coldplay's style sadly. But i hope i'm wrong in this one. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrisonrules Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 7 hours ago, gustavothehuman said: we need this man doing main vocals on studio songs asapΒ Really wish they'd release a song where Will sings the whole songΒ 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
driftaguy Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 29 minutes ago, harrisonrules said: Really wish they'd release a song where Will sings the whole songΒ They do have the live version of Death Will Never Conquer 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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